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Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

Originally posted by Dena Dena wrote:


Thanks.. thought I'd try it out on the cheap first. Some of the Meyers are pricey. I assume some are sharp or have variable apertures?



For absolute sharpness you need modern lenses, but most Meyers are quite adequate. Yes, the Domiplan is a mass produced budget lens of very simple design (only 3 elements) and you cannot expect too much.

Apertures: The older lenses tend to have manual apertures. Later ones (M42 mount) are automatic and have a pin in the rear that needs to be pressed for the aperture to move, which cannot be done when the lens is on a lens adapter. To resolve this, you need to be brave because it involves opening the lens and doctoring the mechanism or gluing the pin from the outside while you hold it down. In between the manual lenses and the automatic lenses is a generation where there is an aperture button on the side of the lens that you can push before you press the shutter. Some very late M42 lenses even have a manual/auto selector.


Thanks for the info. I will see how much I like this one, but I might want a sharper one for portraits.
 



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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:



and CONGRATS, Dena! nice bubbles! pretty sure you won't regret 'boarding' the Meyer ship. except for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ downside perhaps? it always starts with 'just' 1 Meyer... a classic trap! afaik, we all seem to be suffering from G.A.S., so Welcome to the Club!




haha, this is all the fault of yall here with your cool photos!    GAS has been held at bay for a while. Then a friend gifted me a Soligor and a Mamiya and this $42 Domiplan the first lens I've bought in a long while. The only thing I've bought in over a year a like new grip from a local and a very expensive exhibit.
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Some recent snaps with the Primotar 50/2.8:


"Specular reflection"

a7 + Meyer Primotar 50/2.8 1Q




"The HVB tower"

a7 + Meyer Primotar 50/2.8 1Q

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Two strong shots Michael!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snegren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2021 at 23:26
Primotar 50/2.8. Don't have that one yet. Domiron body style, same period I recon. Been looking for one, did not find value for money.

Excellent images Michael, I particularly like The HVB tower.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Micholand Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2021 at 19:14
Thanks guys!

Exactly Paul, the Domiron 50/2 as well as the Primotar 50/2.8 have a similar body style and both were built (~1959-60) in low quantities only, but with high refractive index glass. So somehow competing against the Zeiss Jena offers of that period, for even less money. And the story goes that Zeiss got the privilege whereas Meyer was not allowed to source such high-quality glass anymore. Hence Meyer had to use simpler and cheaper glass for their lenses instead, like in the later produced Oreston/Pentacon 50/1.8.
So you need patience to find one and then again for little money - lucky me
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Two with Lydith wide-angle:



"'Earthtime 1.26 Munich' by Janet Echelman"

a7RIVa + Meyer-Optik Görlitz Lydith 30/3.5 1Q




"'Space in Action / Action in Space' by Jeppe Hein"

a7RIVa + Meyer-Optik Görlitz Lydith 30/3.5 1Q
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snegren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 September 2021 at 09:31
For those who want to read about Carl Zeiss Jena and Meyer Optik Goerlitz lenses and how these companies co-existed within the German Democratic Republic, or more general about old German lenses, I can recommend this article.
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Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

For those who want to read about Carl Zeiss Jena and Meyer Optik Goerlitz lenses and how these companies co-existed within the German Democratic Republic, or more general about old German lenses, I can recommend this article.


Thank you for that link. With regard to the Primoplan, I found this very interesting:
"Residual amounts of spherical aberration ensure that the "point of the smallest constriction" moves along a characteristic light tube ("caustic") when stopping down and thus reduces the extent of this spherical shape error. This simply means that the points of greatest sharpness are not in the same place when the aperture is open and when the aperture is stopped down, which is particularly unfavorable for lenses with automatic aperture control.".
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snegren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2021 at 11:51
Originally posted by woodrim woodrim wrote:

Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

For those who want to read about Carl Zeiss Jena and Meyer Optik Goerlitz lenses and how these companies co-existed within the German Democratic Republic, or more general about old German lenses, I can recommend this article.


Thank you for that link. With regard to the Primoplan, I found this very interesting:
"Residual amounts of spherical aberration ensure that the "point of the smallest constriction" moves along a characteristic light tube ("caustic") when stopping down and thus reduces the extent of this spherical shape error. This simply means that the points of greatest sharpness are not in the same place when the aperture is open and when the aperture is stopped down, which is particularly unfavorable for lenses with automatic aperture control.".


Very brave Mike. Google translate to the rescue I imagine. Did not pick that up. This is interesting as for lenses like the Minolta 20/2.8 prime I have noticed that the AF is not always accurate when you stop down (the A-mount cameras focus wide open). This would then be a possible explanation.
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After some weeks of mental misery I managed to pick up a camera again and then my computer failed. Fortunately due to a multitude of software problems that could be fixed with an SSD drive reset and re-loading all software. So that took a while, but I'm back in operation.

Continuing the Domiron journey.

1: Sweet Bokeh

Exposure Time: 1/8000 sec
ISO: 100

2: Ring Ring

Exposure Time: 0.004 sec (1/250)
ISO: 100

3: Bent

Exposure Time: 0.001 sec (1/2000)
ISO: 100

This one actually stopped down to F/5.6. I just love Exakta lenses with the push-button aperture control.

4: Rust never sleeps at 214

Exposure Time: 0.008 sec (1/125)
ISO: 640

Good sharpness and contrast, no vignette, but a couple of percent barrel distortion remains to be corrected.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fred_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2021 at 17:41
Good to see your on board again Paul! Nice series form your Domiron. Some nice display of it's bokeh.
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One from my Day 270 round today with Primotar 3.5/135mm (M42) +2xTC on A99ii

Bubbles!
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Excellent bubbles Fred! That 135 Primotar was my first bubbler, I think my first Meyer was the 50 Primotar but I never got it to bubble.
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