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70-200 GM Mk1 v Tamron 70-200 2.8 and 85 1.4 GM

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    Posted: 07 May 2022 at 10:32
A couple of years ago, I picked up a Batis 135 after some very useful suggestions in this thread https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/135mm-prime-v-70200-zoom_topic138284.html.

Back then, I had an a7rii, and so using the 85/1.8 and the Batis 135 gave me a lot of options with respect to cropping in post and gave me a nice lightweight kit.

I've recently upgraded to an a9, and this has got me thinking about lens options, as I'm doing a lot more portrait work these days. I'm also running up against some limitations of the prime-only setup in the telephoto range.

I'm thinking of reshuffling my lens lineup (currently 16-35 f4, Sony FE 85/1.8 and Batis 135), getting rid of the 2 primes and replacing them with either of the 2 options below:

1. Sony 70-200 f2.8 GM1 - I've found a brand new copy for £1,600, so after selling the 2 primes, it would require a little additional investment. The pros are that I'd be down to a 2 lens zoom set up, it's got OSS, great build quality, and the ability to use teleconverters (this will be useful in the future as I would like to do a little sports shooting - mainly rugby, football and cricket, which all need longer lenses). The main con is the weight, which may get tiring on a long shoot (I'm currently planning a 6 hour model shoot with 1 other photographer and a model).

2. Tamron 70-200 f2.8 plus 85 f1.4 GM - The Tarom would be grey, and the 85 would be used, but the paid should come out at roughly the same cost as option 1. The pros are that I'd have a fabulous portrait lens and the versatility of the zoom. From reviews, the Tamron is no slouch and is much lighter than the 70-200. The only downsides are the lack of OSS, and the inability to use teleconverters.

I suspect that most here will come down on the side of option 2, but interested to hear thoughts.

Andy

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I haven't used any GM's so far. The Tamron is not 70-200mm which is a downside. It also doesn't support 20 FPS AF-C on the A9, and it extends to zoom.

I bought the Tamron twice through Greentoe which is not grey. The first copy was quite poorly aligned. The second was much better but not perfect. I noticed the VXD motors pulsing in MF mode when they should be holding a set focus. It was too short for my usage. I much prefer their 70-300 RXD.

The 85mm GM sounds like a lovely lens with somewhat slow focusing. I am not a fan of the 1.8/85, but I am trying it again.

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The 85/1.8 is a very good lens for the price, but Iíve never fallen in love with it like I did with the Batis 135, hence looking at the GM as a specialist portrait lens where AF speed is less critical.
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Originally posted by Andy81 Andy81 wrote:

The 85/1.8 is a very good lens for the price, but Iíve never fallen in love with it like I did with the Batis 135, hence looking at the GM as a specialist portrait lens where AF speed is less critical.
Is it the lens or the focal length? I, for instance, find 100mm here nor there, but really like my Sony 85/1.8 and Batis 135/2.8.

If you like the 135/2.8, why replace it?

The 70-200/2.8 GM is not considered to be that good. The advice of PhilipReeve.net is "Donít buy this one new at full retail price anymore, get the better MK II version (see next lens) or the Tamron 70-180mm 2.8 for half the price."
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Andy81 Andy81 wrote:

The 85/1.8 is a very good lens for the price, but Iíve never fallen in love with it like I did with the Batis 135, hence looking at the GM as a specialist portrait lens where AF speed is less critical.
Is it the lens or the focal length? I, for instance, find 100mm here nor there, but really like my Sony 85/1.8 and Batis 135/2.8.

If you like the 135/2.8, why replace it?

The 70-200/2.8 GM is not considered to be that good. The advice of PhilipReeve.net is "Donít buy this one new at full retail price anymore, get the better MK II version (see next lens) or the Tamron 70-180mm 2.8 for half the price."


The 85 is great in the studio, but when doing location shoots I will always reach for the Batis over it due to the rendering and microcontrast.

In essence the issue is that a 2 prime setup at these lengths isnít as practical as Iíd like, particularly for non-portrait work such as family etc.

As an only prime, Iíd go for an 85 over a 135 for practicality (more use cases) hence considering the 85GM or possibly the Batis 85. A telephoto zoom would be a great addition, but Iím wondering whether getting the 70-200 GM1 at a big discount on original retail is worth it, or whether Iíd be better with the Tamron zoom and a knockout 85.
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