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70-2002.8 A-mount w converter or 70-200 f4 native

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    Posted: 07 May 2020 at 21:26
So was ready to pull the trigger on a 70-200 f4 on sale then found out the store has a bad record of bait and switch and shady tactics so they are out and was looking elsewhere and found I can get a

Sony SEL70200G FE 70-200mm F4 G OSS (new) - International version for $1131.83 USD. but can get a used Sony AF 70-200mm f/2.8 APO G(D) SSM for $789 USD.

Lens would be used on a SOny A7III
1) ANy concerns with getting an international lens (I am in the USA)
2) Would saving $330 and getting a f2.8 a mount vs f4 emount be worth it - I already have an LEA-3?

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Do you want to shoot high speed bursts with focus tracking? That's not available with the LA-EA adapters on the A7 cameras.

I have a used Canon EF 70-200 F4L USM coming. I'll be interested to compare it to the Minolta 70-210 and see how it does on the Metabones IV advanced mode.

I have had a few 70-200 F2.8's--big and heavy. I am currently negotiating for the new Tamron 70-180 F2.8 VXD.

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Good point - quarantine has me not thinking - forgot about the focus tracking and come to think of it the LEa-3 would cost me ~ 1/2 stop of light with the slt. Think I'll go for native glass. I do own a Minolta 70-210 f4 beercan lens. I used it all the time with my a57 but with my a7III I have been using the 24-240 bt am going to step up the quality in my long end telephoto lenses.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2020 at 21:46
The AF of adapted lenses is noticeable less then native lenses. I would go with the 70-200/2.8 if you need f/2.8 and/or you want to use it on an A-mount lens as well. The 70-200/4 has a size advantage as well. Take a look at the Tamron 70-180/2.8 everybody is raving about, might be a good solution - f/2.8, affordable and small/light.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2020 at 21:49
Originally posted by jkkyler jkkyler wrote:

come to think of it the LEa-3 would cost me ~ 1/2 stop of light with the slt.
The LA-EA3 would cost you no light as it has no mirror (your thinking about the LA-EA4). The 70-200/2.8 works with the LA-EA3. Also, half a stop is not much and to me the reason to get a f/2.8 lens would be the DoF - with modern cameras the higher ISO's are fine.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jkkyler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2020 at 23:23
I mistyped - it is the laea4 (the one that has focusing for screw mount lenses I got with my 70-210 beercan).

I'm not willing to give up the 20mm on the long end to the Tamron. I am already wary of giving up 40 mm from the 24-240 but I know that the image quality will be much better and I will gain more Dof but giving up 60 seems just too much.


It seems I can save $300 or more getting an international lens (which would apparently be without warranty even though new because it becomes grey market)- any thoughts on that.

I do have a a message to a local seller who is offering a FE 70-200 2.8 GM for a ridiculous price so I suspect it is stolen but no way to know for sure. If he is willing to meet in public for a sale I may go that route. I was going to get the 20mm 1.8G and the 24 1.4GM but the price on the 24 1.4 gm is pretty much the same as the 70-200 f4 and that makes more sense.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2manycamera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2020 at 00:48
[QUOTE=jkkyler] I mistyped -


It seems I can save $300 or more getting an international lens (which would apparently be without warranty even though new because it becomes grey market)- any thoughts on that.

Grey market has benefits (cost) vs. peace of mind (warranty). I do not know what Sony's position is, but Nikon USA has made it a policy to offer no repair service on any equipment not marketed through Nikon USA. So, not only no warranty, but no repair available through Nikon at all. To be fair, this is not always a problem, as Nikon farms out warranty repairs on some products to 3rd party repair locations. So even when factory repair isn't available, 3rd party remains an option.

Again, I am not sure of what Sony's attitude is on non-Sony USA product, but when I buy new (not often) one reason is warranty. I do know that Sony offers extended warranties on new product, at a cost of course.

There's an awful lot going on inside a modern zoom lens. I had my, then new, CZ 2.8/24-70 warranty repaired when the zoom ring wouldn't go below about 35mm. That repair was $450 outside warranty. At the point it was sent in, my 1 year warranty was almost up, they covered it completely.

Another consideration is used from either KEH or usedphotopro.com (Robert's Camera in Indianapolis). They offer 180 day warranties on everything they sell above "as-is", and sometimes extend to 360 days at additional cost. The first a99 I bought from Robert's had problems that they couldn't fix, so they refunded my entire purchase price after I had the camera for more than 90 days.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote michelb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2020 at 01:39
I don't see it mentioned here but:

The A-Mount APO teleconverters will not be compatible with the LA-EA adapters of any model when used on E-Mount bodies.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote jkkyler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2020 at 01:59
Gonna order my 20mm 1.8 tomorrow and with stay at home and social distancing there is no big hurry so I may poke around a bit and see what kind of deals I can find.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jkkyler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2020 at 19:42
Went ahead and ordered a FE 70-200mm F/4 G lens today. Had planned on ordering a "Buy it now" lens from Ebay for $900 that looked to be in great shape but when I awoke this am it was sold.

Went with a "Like New" condition rated lens with all accessories and 6 month warranty from MPB for $1069. Feeling good about my decision. Hopefully will get it this week and I am off work the following week for previously planned vacaiton next week. Gonna try and go to my parents farmland in the country and check it out.
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