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85mm SAM f/2.8 vs 80-200mm f/2.8 HS

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    Posted: 15 December 2021 at 17:33
Hi,
I'm currently shooting with A99, and I'm in search for a portrait lens. I was going to get old Minolta 80-200mm f/2.8 APO HS, but I've found a nice offer for a Sony 85mm f/2.8 SAM. I know there is a huge size difference between them, but I wonder how those two lenses compare for IQ and AF? What can I expect from them if I upgrade to A99II?
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote mariuszlo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 December 2021 at 18:03
I have both of these lenses. If I were to only use the 80mm focal length I would undoubtedly choose the small Sony 85. The Af seems a bit faster with an 80-200 APO. But the size and the MFD (0.6m vs 1.8m) speak in favor of the Sony 85 / 2.8.
And on the A99II Sony 85/2.8 uses all the AF possibilities (number of points and area)

Edited by mariuszlo - 15 December 2021 at 18:16
Sony A99II with Sony, Minolta, Sigma, Tamron A lenses, Sony A7R with Minolta MD lenses, Sony A6400 with Sony E lenses.
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Like Marius I have both. I use them mainly on an A99ii.

They are both very good, for taking portraits. The 85/2.8 will do a very nice job with a little better IQ than the zoom and give you all the extra focus points etc with the A99ii. But the 80-200 HS is a superb zoom, takes beautiful portraits and is far more flexible.

The focus speed difference is minimal, not enough to make a difference for portraiture.

The extra focus modes are not that important to me, so I'd be selecting on the basis of weight v versatility more than the slight difference in IQ.

If I could only have one it would be the zoom, it's just such a nice lens for so many uses (provided you get one in good optical condition).

To be honest, since I got an 85/1.4 the 85/2.8 hasn't seen much use.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote darkymir Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 December 2021 at 19:29
And how about the IQ? I'm planning to get the Minolta anyway, so my concern is that the 85mm will stay on the shelf, gathering dust if the zoom is good enough wide open.

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How big is your studio? I also have both and use an a99. The Minolta 80-200 HS has a MFD 3X the MFD of the SAL85F28. If it's a formal portrait session the smaller lens is quite nice. Informal, candid portraits the reach and speed of the HS shines.
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No studio, I'm not shooting professionally
 



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I also have the 85/2.8 and the older, black Minolta 80-200/2.8. Overall, I certainly think the zoom is the better lens for all-around use. However, I have grown very fond of the little 2.8/85mm SAM adapted to the a7Rii with the la-ea3. Really nice results on the 42mp sensor, AF speeds are fine with all but the fastest moving subjects, and size and balance is definitely a plus.

Likely not as big a deal on the a99. That's where I tend to use the 2.8/80-200 the most.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 December 2021 at 01:17
Originally posted by darkymir darkymir wrote:

No studio, I'm not shooting professionally

I generally meant "working space". You never know, it could lead to something. That said the SAL85F28 is a surprisingly good lens; at least I was surprised. compact, light, sharp.
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