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    Posted: 08 January 2022 at 08:09

Here's a shout out to a sleeper lens - the old Minolta 28-135 F4-F4.5 AF.

Look at this picture - zoom in - browse the bridge and the water - almost unchanged from its raw source - the most distant features - a wind-speed vane - the flags on the far side of the bridge - the supports - the shadows distinct - perfectly exposed. WOW. You have to zoom in to appreciate.



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Hardly a sleeper lens in my book with 202 reviews in the lensdatabase and seven pages of samples. It also has a nickname, the (not so) secret handshake. A lot of people know about this one.

There is a reason it is highly sought after. It is a really good zoom for the late 80's. As your picture shows.

BTW, is the definition of sleeper lens changing? It used to be a lens that people do not really know to be really good, but it is. Like the Minolta 35-200xi or the Sigma Superwide 24/2.8. It seems to move, as Gordon Laing made a sleeper list which included the Sony 24/1.4GM (and omitted the 100STF....). Like the 28-135 hardly a lens nobody knows about.

Anyway, good picture!
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Next to a nice lens it's also a very nice photograph!

The tranquil atmosphere, slightly hazy background and the little boat in exactly the right place. All top notch
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Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

Next to a nice lens it's also a very nice photograph!

The tranquil atmosphere, slightly hazy background and the little boat in exactly the right place. All top notch

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I quite enjoy using it on the A99 a good bit. The CA can be bad and the flare is just about terrible, though.
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What can I say - I am very impressed by the details of the large version. Great lens, but - as has been said - a great image as well.

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Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

I quite enjoy using it on the A99 a good bit. The CA can be bad and the flare is just about terrible, though.


I did some testing to provoke flare on A99 and was happy to discover its nowhere as bad as has been suggested, even shooting direct into the sun. Fringing is also not too bad, can be controlled.

On the flip side, the flare can be made part of the shot if desired, it seems easy enough to control.

As everyone says, images can be great with this lens.
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Yes, a really good lens, usually been a lens i used very much, but after changing to FE, it is in no use.
Maybe i should sell it, like other lenses in storage ....hmmm....
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I’ve never had the complaints people have. Honestly I think it’s a standout lens from it’s era and still delivers good results today. The lack of hood is my biggest complaint. And the poor minimum focus distance, but for most of my shots it’s not a Problem. Zoom creep can be a Problem also.
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I have one available if anyone is looking for one. Even have a nice metal hood for it. It works well on the LA-EA5/A7RIV.
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pic doesn't show here called 'secret h.shake' for a reason? aka 'leica killer'?    comes even with a 'macro' option.
28mm very useable, great range.
although not light-weighted, it has been my walkaround lens for ages.
still is. (unless 24-70 w/b enough and -think- I need f2.8? + the extra CZ sharpness ;)).
still recommandable!

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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:


BTW, is the definition of sleeper lens changing?

A sleeper vehicle is some standard, boring looking vehicle that performs really well. The Minolta AF 28-135mm was never a sleeper. It is an old high end lens. A sleeper lens would likely have a dull plastic body and minimal bling. The FE 28-60mm is a decent, recent example.

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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

A sleeper lens would likely have a dull plastic body and minimal bling. The FE 28-60mm is a decent, recent example.


I would add the Cosina 100 F3.5 macro to that list as well. Plastic body and AF sounds like it is grinding gravel, but produces amazing images.

I also really like my 28-135 F4-4.5. The images it produces far outweighs the faults that people find with it. Walking around with it on my A850 is a walk back in time (as well as an arm workout LOL.)
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Originally posted by Basil Basil wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

A sleeper lens would likely have a dull plastic body and minimal bling. The FE 28-60mm is a decent, recent example.


I would add the Cosina 100 F3.5 macro to that list as well. Plastic body and AF sounds like it is grinding gravel, but produces amazing images.
I think both fit the bill: (much) better then you expect.
Glad to see sleeper lenses still are, well, sleeper lenses

Looked at some 28-60 reviews:
"All told, this is an impressive little lens optically, and I have to confess that it exceeded my expectations on virtually every level. [...] Normally I wouldn’t advise people to purchase the kit lens, but this really isn’t a bad little compact option."

and another:
"Perhaps my mind was thinking, "Kit lens." Then the FE 28-60mm lens arrived, and test after test showed good results, with image sharpness being especially good.

As this lens easily exceeded my expectations and is begging to become part of my kit, it likely fits physically and functionally in your kit."

Impressive...
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

I Even have a nice metal hood for it. It works well on the LA-EA5/A7RIV.

I've not found a lens hood that didn't shade the corners. Even with a step up ring. I did try a plumbing clamp and shorn off plunger to the outside of the bezel, it sort of worked but was too embarrassed to be seen in public with it.
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