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Originally posted by alanfrombangor alanfrombangor wrote:

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I still have film in a camera from the previous film challenge.

Me too, Paul! Dynax 7000i with only two frames exposed

I got a bit further than that Alan, but not far enough.
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I still have a roll of Fuji Velvia 50 in the fridge. And a six pack of Lomochrome Purple. Both from last year. And Kodak Color 200, but I don't know how old or how I got it. Perhaps the Kodak has been cooked, I just don't know. Could be 2x24 failed fotos, could be funky colours, could still be OK. Think I will save that for last....
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This was the brief for the last film challenge - are people OK if we just follow the same format?

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What is The Dyxum film challenge?
If you wonder what this challenge is about then it's simply about revisiting analogue photography for a bit of nostalgia, experiemcing a radically different workflow and ultimately, appreciating how convienient our modern equipment makes photography.

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Any Dyxumer can join this challenge. Just subscribe in this thread - as simple as that

When
The idea is to keep shooting film during three upcoming months - starting on 1 January and ending on 31 March (These dates are flexible, so don’t worry if you have already started a roll… We can also extend the end-date if anyone requires – because analogue photography is a bit like that….

Equipment
You can use any film camera and any lens you like (no matter what brand or format, e.g. medium or big) however we would ask that your first roll uses an alpha-mount (Minota AF) camera (if you have one at present). Like everything about this challenge, we can be flexible here, but remember that we are alpha-mount-dedicated forum in the end
So, as a general rule, if you own an alpha-mount film camera it should be the first one to shoot and post your results. Then you may move on to your other cameras. If you don't have any Dynax, Maxxum or Alpha film camera then well - just use what you have

Results
You are expected to deliver 1/3rd keepers from each roll of film and post just those - we realise that sometimes you may have full roll of keepers but you have to narrow your selection down to 4, 8 or 12 shots - depending on the roll (i.e. 12, 24 or 36 frames).
As on previous occasions we will keep all challenge in a single thread of discussion, i.e. all photos and discussion should be posted in this thread.

To make the thread a bit less photo-intensive please split your photo-posts into groups of 4 shots - it will be easier to navigate. When posting please state the camera and film used and if possible - also the lens. You may also mention how the photo was digitzed (e.g. what scanner/software). And please remember to "number" your photos in a unique way - this will make it easier to refer to a particular shot in the discussion.


We could run it from the 1 September - we could even try running it for 6 rather than 3 months...
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Sounds good to me .
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I’m fine with this too Bob. Looking forward to it. I assume the start date/month is yet to be decided and the Jan-Mar refers to last year’s challenge?

Now that I have commissioned the second Dynax 7 I am planning to give them both some exercise, but I’m really going to have to dig into the user manual again. So many settings to recall, not to mention dusting off the Data Saver (DS-100).

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For Dutchies: Anybody used Hema or Kruidvat recently for developing film? How does it work? Did you do MF?
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So there is the general rule that you have to use your Alpha-mount camera first - but then we are very flexible and you don't have to use it first? As I said, there is probably no meaningful "control" of that (would we really want to "control" this?) - since no exif-data are given.

Why not have a really general rule that owners of Alpha-mount film cameras should include images shot with them in their postings, at one or another point of time during the challenge? Otherwise anything goes. Developing and scanning film introduces a confusing time factor. Well, it's potentially confusing only if you have to use your Alpha-gear first.
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Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

Why not have a really general rule that owners of Alpha-mount film cameras should include images shot with them in their postings, at one or another point of time during the challenge? Otherwise anything goes. Developing and scanning film introduces a confusing time factor. Well, it's potentially confusing only if you have to use your Alpha-gear first.

If you do not start with an A-mount camera, you start with your Pentax, and then you go with your Canon, maybe shoot a point-and-shoot or even a real camera like a Hasselblad or Bronica. And then you might not come around to shoot your A-mount camera at all. Do you have to delete all your pictures then?

Can you explain why it is confusing to start with your A-mount camera? At least, to first post the pictures of your A-mount camera? I assume you keep track somehow with what camera you took which pictures. And using your A-mount camera first makes it easier to track: if you have that one done, then anything goes.
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Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

So there is the general rule that you have to use your Alpha-mount camera first - but then we are very flexible and you don't have to use it first? As I said, there is probably no meaningful "control" of that (would we really want to "control" this?) - since no exif-data are given.

Why not have a really general rule that owners of Alpha-mount film cameras should include images shot with them in their postings, at one or another point of time during the challenge? Otherwise anything goes. Developing and scanning film introduces a confusing time factor. Well, it's potentially confusing only if you have to use your Alpha-gear first.


No need for hard and fast rules .
If your going to use several types of film for different things , and/or in several formats , you'll likely as not be shooting them alongside each other . Especially if your using several cameras .

I'll be using colour and black and white in 35mm , B&W in 120 , B&W in 5"x4" .
I'll also be doing some Rollei Infrared in large format and possibly 120 .
So I won't be using up a full roll in one camera before I start on the next roll/camera .

First shot I'll take is in my old Minolta 7000AF that I started off with in the mid 1990's .
( well apart from a few shots I've already taken in my Lubitel II )
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AsD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2020 at 20:21
I'd like to have a go at this.

Equipment would be :- Dynax 5, Minolta 50mm f3.5 macro with Kentmere 400.

I've yet to use the camera, or any film slr for that matter, it looks virtually unused so hopefully it won't have any issues.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snegren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2020 at 21:16
Originally posted by Bob J Bob J wrote:

This was the brief for the last film challenge - are people OK if we just follow the same format?

Originally posted by Bob J Bob J wrote:

What is The Dyxum film challenge?
If you wonder what this challenge is about then it's simply about revisiting analogue photography for a bit of nostalgia, experiemcing a radically different workflow and ultimately, appreciating how convienient our modern equipment makes photography.

Who
Any Dyxumer can join this challenge. Just subscribe in this thread - as simple as that

When
The idea is to keep shooting film during three upcoming months - starting on 1 January and ending on 31 March (These dates are flexible, so don’t worry if you have already started a roll… We can also extend the end-date if anyone requires – because analogue photography is a bit like that….

Equipment
You can use any film camera and any lens you like (no matter what brand or format, e.g. medium or big) however we would ask that your first roll uses an alpha-mount (Minota AF) camera (if you have one at present). Like everything about this challenge, we can be flexible here, but remember that we are alpha-mount-dedicated forum in the end
So, as a general rule, if you own an alpha-mount film camera it should be the first one to shoot and post your results. Then you may move on to your other cameras. If you don't have any Dynax, Maxxum or Alpha film camera then well - just use what you have

Results
You are expected to deliver 1/3rd keepers from each roll of film and post just those - we realise that sometimes you may have full roll of keepers but you have to narrow your selection down to 4, 8 or 12 shots - depending on the roll (i.e. 12, 24 or 36 frames).
As on previous occasions we will keep all challenge in a single thread of discussion, i.e. all photos and discussion should be posted in this thread.

To make the thread a bit less photo-intensive please split your photo-posts into groups of 4 shots - it will be easier to navigate. When posting please state the camera and film used and if possible - also the lens. You may also mention how the photo was digitzed (e.g. what scanner/software). And please remember to "number" your photos in a unique way - this will make it easier to refer to a particular shot in the discussion.


We could run it from the 1 September - we could even try running it for 6 rather than 3 months...

Good enough for me Bob!
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

Why not have a really general rule that owners of Alpha-mount film cameras should include images shot with them in their postings, at one or another point of time during the challenge? Otherwise anything goes. Developing and scanning film introduces a confusing time factor. Well, it's potentially confusing only if you have to use your Alpha-gear first.

If you do not start with an A-mount camera, you start with your Pentax, and then you go with your Canon, maybe shoot a point-and-shoot or even a real camera like a Hasselblad or Bronica. And then you might not come around to shoot your A-mount camera at all. Do you have to delete all your pictures then?

Can you explain why it is confusing to start with your A-mount camera? At least, to first post the pictures of your A-mount camera? I assume you keep track somehow with what camera you took which pictures. And using your A-mount camera first makes it easier to track: if you have that one done, then anything goes.


Well, I do not develop my films. I take them to two developing services in Berlin. I have a stack of Adox CMS 25 which I would want to use up for the challenge - 36 exposures per roll. Currently I have to wait about 2-3 weeks for getting them developed - it's a special process. Then I would probably start posting some images (getting them scanned first) not earlier than mid-October if we start in September. I have also a camera loaded with 120 film - for 8 exposures. Developing takes two days (different film, different service). I could post images within a week or so. If the rule would be "the first image you take should be taken with an Alpha-mount camera" I would have no problem - since the time for developing and scanning would not have to be synchronized with posting images.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 August 2020 at 07:07
I guess you mean Adox CMS 20 (not 25 )

You could shoot your first roll with something else. I do not want to shoot with an A-mount camera, but he, these are the rules.

BTW, the rules say "your first roll uses an alpha-mount (Minota AF) camera" it does not state the first pictures you share. It is the honour system. We trust your honest.

Edit: I hope you get that CMS 20 film scanned professionally as most scans will not show the fine grain.
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25! But CHS instead of CMS.



I always thought this to be a discussion on rules which are not yet finalized. It seems you want to leave me no other option than to sell my Alpha-mount body to get my "anything goes"!
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