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Post Options Post Options   Quote Shaocaholica Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:41
Perhaps LV mode is always using stop down so there would be no need for DOF when using LV.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote ricardovaste Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:42
I agree, interesting idea, but i dont see it happening at all. Maybe just one unique model in the line up with live view at first? Would certainly allow for as much variation between the first 5 models. Plenty of choices, all offering something of their own. What any system needs i guess... but then continuity is also important - liveview through out the line up eventually i guess. but if they had the technology why not include it inthe A700??? Are sony maybe saying liveview is still an 'amateur/p&s" feature? Or just a way of luring in P&S/bridge camera users to the sony mount? OR i dont know.. so many options.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CTYankee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:44
That thought came to mind, though I have to believe AF would suffer as a result ... unless a new AF system is somehow less bothered by low light. Or maybe DOF preview is activated by a different control if implemented on a camera where it only works in live view mode since you don't have the camera to your eye and don't need to press a button with your left hand index finger. Or ... maybe they just cheaped out :)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote cezarL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:44
Judging by the looks of the pics (the state of the camera shown), this is what we're going to get at PMA.

Well... I must admit I'm a bit disappointed. I had hoped the next release would be something above A100-A200 and under A700. This looks to be an A200 with live-view. All bright and shiny, but I don't think it will have a pentaprism VF (that's my main concern regarding the A200), so... I don't think that it's the camera I want :(


PS-I took around 25-30 shots today for the OnePrime challenge because I couldn't AF in the exact point I wanted (the outmost AF sensor wasn't as much out as I needed) and MF was a pain in the poor light. I believe a bigger VF would have helped a lot, hence my wish for the next camera I buy.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sybersitizen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:46
Where is it documented that the A200 has no DOF preview? That little beveled edge might have a button that isn't visible. Phil Askey thinks it's there somewhere according to his specifications page (about halfway down):

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08010701sonydslra200.asp
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Post Options Post Options   Quote eldonito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:50
Hmmm, still no AF assist light ...maybe I am "doomed" to get the a700 (financial circumstances allowing)

...actually, doesn't the area that would have had such a light (up-right from lens mount) look a bit photoshopped? Maybe it's just my impression.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote harveyzone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:53
Originally posted by eldonito eldonito wrote:

Hmmm, still no AF assist light ...maybe I am "doomed" to get the a700 (financial circumstances allowing)

...actually, doesn't the area that would have had such a light (up-right from lens mount) look a bit photoshopped? Maybe it's just my impression.
Maybe, but that is where "a200" is printed on the a200, so whoever created the images is probably just disguising the model name.

Edited by harveyzone - 08 January 2008 at 22:54
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Post Options Post Options   Quote cezarL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:53
Sorry to disappoint you, but that area is photoshopped just to hide the camera name (A300?)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kefkafloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:53
I noticed a third button on the top plate that's next to what are presumably the ISO and Drive buttons. What would this button do? White balance like on the a700?

(and I'm not referring to the button on the back of the camera next to the AEL button, that's obviously the live view button)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote CTYankee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:55
cezarL ... go back to the first or second post in the thread ... assuming this source is valid at all, it specifies two new cameras (10MP and 14MP IIRC) so there's hope yet ! [Edit: I take it back, the reference to 2 models was from another poster, so who knows ?]

Syber ... Michael Hohner got hold of the A200 manual (posted a link somewhere ... on the Sony site, I believe) and verified that it does not have DOF preview. DPreview put the available specs into their A200 table, then copied the rest from the A100 ... initially, many of the specs (LCD size, camera dimensions) were incorrect and they either haven't bothered or haven't confirmed DOF preview yet.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 22:59
Originally posted by cezarL cezarL wrote:

Judging by the looks of the pics (the state of the camera shown), this is what we're going to get at PMA.

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Originally posted by cezarL cezarL wrote:

Well... I must admit I'm a bit disappointed. I had hoped the next release would be something above A100-A200 and under A700.

Hard to imagine any "room" for another model since one yet to be announced model will bring a bit more than just a200 and live view
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Where is it documented that the A200 has no DOF preview?

You may missed the link to a200 manual
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=DSLRA200K
Originally posted by cezarL cezarL wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you, but that area is photoshopped just to hide the camera name (A300?)

Yes and no .. now go figure

After the PMA, many of you will have more than enough time to consider if and what to get. As i already suggested don't rush with spending the money; PMA isn't distant and many answers will be given at that time.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Octupi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 23:00
I just have to say that it looks like Sony is about to make new users really question what system to buy. They are going to quickly pull would-be N/C buyers in since they have such a big marketing group, brand recognition and money to do so.

The ship is starting to power up and moving...only more good things to come, w/ more attention it means prices drop, 3rd party accessories are easier to find and we all get happy.   
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kefkafloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 23:03
My hope is that the A300 is the 5D replacement. A cut down a700 with good image quality and good performance (at LEAST 12 shot raw buffer, 15 would be preferable). I could live with 3 FPS but 4 would be gravy. I don't particularly care about Live View but an articulating screen is always nice for a waist level finder. It has to be the D90 killer, basically.

Also, when will Shao give me a cut for being promoted to mod? Without me he would have never joined the Sonolta camp... ;) I kid.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pnaciona Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2008 at 23:07
I hope Sony doesn't take everything we write here too seriously (assuming they read this forum). ;)

I'm trying hard not to say anything but let me just express an opinion once again... an SLR without a mirror box and optical viewfinder is not an SLR.

It would be good to see a Sony model with a live view but I hope they keep working on improving the cameras' output (image) quality. Can't wait to see how the A200 compares to the A100 in terms of IQ.
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