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What's the procedure to disable the lens check?
 



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I think it is inappropriate to compare LV as implemented in the A350 with the lack of LV in the A700 ( and I bet it won't be in the A900 either). First, it begs the question of whether A700 users even want or need this feature. Certainly, earlier earlier implementations by other manufacturers (Canikon) were clumsy. Sony's implementation is much more elegant but requires a pentmirror viewfinder which offers less coverage of the image and is less bright. It remains to be seen if using a pentaprism, anyone can produce a LV function that is as quick and accurate as on the A350. So we come full circle. Would I give up the advantages of a pentaprism viewfinder on my A700 ( and the A900) just to get LV? My answer is no.
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No question here, but I really enjoyed reading the A-350 1st impression thread.

Nothing about pixel peeping and high ISO performance, it was instructive to have an idea on how the camera acts out of the studio.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2008 at 18:18
Originally posted by mhohner mhohner wrote:

What's the procedure to disable the lens check?

I was about to pointing you where i mentioned this and then realized that i didn't copied this part of the text inhere :(

No such option. I was happy to get the chance to use my peleng lens with live view and then realized i can't do it !

Thanks for reminding me.
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Originally posted by Ken Ken wrote:

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I think it is inappropriate to compare LV as implemented in the A350 with the lack of LV in the A700 ( and I bet it won't be in the A900 either).

If you read what i wrote you will see that i stated: "please note that ISN'T possible to have the same sort of LV implementation on a700 for various technical reasons"
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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

Originally posted by mhohner mhohner wrote:

What's the procedure to disable the lens check?

I was about to pointing you where i mentioned this and then realized that i didn't copied this part of the text inhere :(

No such option. I was happy to get the chance to use my peleng lens with live view and then realized i can't do it !

Thanks for reminding me.

I thought they may have implemented it like on the A200, i.e. the lens check is disabled when using M mode. Can you try this with the A350?
 



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Originally posted by mhohner mhohner wrote:


I thought they may have implemented it like on the A200, i.e. the lens check is disabled when using M mode. Can you try this with the A350?

Now .. where was you in the last few days !
Yes, manual focusing lenses can be used if used in M mode!
THANK YOU !
I wish knew this since i was really looking forward to use the fisheye lens :(
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2008 at 19:08
Now that i learned that is quite useful to ask if in doubts    here is a question for MHohner or anyone else; is there any "secret" trick to enable this "DRO driven" metering in live view mode? I got same exposure and results in live view or normal mode.
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Well, shouldn't you get the same results?
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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

Originally posted by mhohner mhohner wrote:


I thought they may have implemented it like on the A200, i.e. the lens check is disabled when using M mode. Can you try this with the A350?

Now .. where was you in the last few days !
Yes, manual focusing lenses can be used if used in M mode!
THANK YOU !
I wish knew this since i was really looking forward to use the fisheye lens :(


So manual focus lenses can not be used in A mode, can be used only in M mode?Do you know why they did this?
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Originally posted by ruvmendis ruvmendis wrote:


So manual focus lenses can not be used in A mode, can be used only in M mode?Do you know why they did this?

I didn't know about this trick so i'm certainly not aware about why.
But, it is an acceptable compromise for me: far worst scenario would be if they decided to disable camera metering reading as nikon has done in some models.
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Originally posted by mhohner mhohner wrote:

Well, shouldn't you get the same results?

It wasn't supposed to be so; at least from all materials i have.
1200 zone metering was developed by Apical (DRO) and is supposedly reading RGB signals.
The differences should be most significant when shooting in strong backlights or when strong light sources are in frame.
But as i said it acted just as the ordinary honeycomb metering and i'm not sure if i was missing something.
I found a statement that this will not work if spot or center weighted metering is selected but i didn't succeed to get it work in matrix metering as well.
Someone will helpfully put some light later.

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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

Originally posted by mhohner mhohner wrote:

Well, shouldn't you get the same results?

It wasn't supposed to be so; at least from all materials i have.
1200 zone metering was developed by Apical (DRO) and is supposedly reading RGB signals.
The differences should be most significant when shooting in strong backlights or when strong light sources are in frame.
But as i said it acted just as the ordinary honeycomb metering and i'm not sure if i was missing something.
I found a statement that this will not work if spot or center weighted metering is selected but i didn't succeed to get it work in matrix metering as well.
Someone will helpfully put some light later.



If i understand Apical algorithm correctly, your metering should be exactly the same. Only the rendered image would change as it applied different processing to areas (it believes) it wants to bring out e.g. the shadow detail, etc. This should yield much better perceived dynamic range, but the metering, IMO, should remain exactly the same.

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Might be a bit too late, but given that the A200/300/350 have no DOF Preview button, is there an option to choose whether the Focus Hold Button (on the lens) does DOF Preview or Focus Hold?

This might just be relevant to macro shooters with the A300/350, who might:

- choose DOF Preview for the Focus Hold Button
- sell their Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macros in favor of a Sony/Minolta 100mm F2.8 Macro with Focus Hold Button

Thus, our problem with not having a DOF button is solved! Just buy a lens with a Focus Hold Button.

DOF Preview ALSO does Focus Hold and Exposure Lock, which is quite handy.
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