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    Posted: 25 March 2021 at 00:50
Hello,

I recently became entangled with the Minolta AF lenses... Currently using it on film only:

Minolta Maxxum 5 with - AF 50/1.7; 70-210/4 Beercan; 100-200/4.5 mini beercan; Vivitar series 1 19-35/3.5-4.5...

I want to try these on digital and was looking at an old Alpha camera model. I cannot believe these cameras are still holding their price/value...

After research, a good compromise I can do based on tech/price on market is either the A55 or A57 - both of these between $150-$225 body only, which to me is a bit insane given the age and tech in these bodies...

Are there any other recommendations/samples?

For reference, my main body is a Pentax K-50 (so I do not have the latest in tech). I also shoot with a Canon D60 6.3 MP simply because it is the only camera that will handle my Sigma EX 105/2.8 Macro on EOS mount.

I am not pixel peeping, but I do want something that is not too outdated.

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Yes. A-mount bodies don't depreciate much.

If you prefer using a viewfinder you might want to consider an A58 over those two. The OLED viewfinder in that camera is nicer looking than the field-sequential LCD viewfinders. Unfortunately the rest of the A58 feels like a downgrade.
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Yes. A-mount bodies don't depreciate much.

If you prefer using a viewfinder you might want to consider an A58 over those two. The OLED viewfinder in that camera is nicer looking than the field-sequential LCD viewfinders. Unfortunately the rest of the A58 feels like a downgrade.


OK, this is something new in my research... so there is no real viewfinder, rather I'd be putting my eye to look into a small LCD screen (rather than through the lens like the usual dSLRs)?

This never popped into sense until now... I am very used to TTL viewfinders; I like looking at the real thing...

Let me ask, does the LCD viewfinder has focuspeak? That would be actually nice.

I did compare the a57 and a58 = for the extra costs on the a58, I did not see the big advancement, as MP are not really that big of a deal from 16 to 20.

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Originally posted by edom31 edom31 wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Yes. A-mount bodies don't depreciate much.

If you prefer using a viewfinder you might want to consider an A58 over those two. The OLED viewfinder in that camera is nicer looking than the field-sequential LCD viewfinders. Unfortunately the rest of the A58 feels like a downgrade.


OK, this is something new in my research... so there is no real viewfinder, rather I'd be putting my eye to look into a small LCD screen (rather than through the lens like the usual dSLRs)?

This never popped into sense until now... I am very used to TTL viewfinders; I like looking at the real thing...

Let me ask, does the LCD viewfinder has focuspeak? That would be actually nice.

I did compare the a57 and a58 = for the extra costs on the a58, I did not see the big advancement, as MP are not really that big of a deal from 16 to 20.


Yes, all the two digit digital Alphas bodies (A##) have electronic viewfinders.

Sony did release some SLRs in 2010 alongside the A55. They made SLRs before then too. The A700 was the highest end APS-C SLR. The A580 was the last mid-range one. All the three digit digital Alpha bodies (A###) are SLRs.

It sounds like the A55 doesn't have focus peaking, but the A57 and A58 do.
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Pentax Q7 5-15 15-45/2.8 8.5/1.9 11.5/9 AF-P/Q
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

[QUOTE=edom31] [QUOTE=QuietOC]

Yes, all the two digit digital Alphas bodies (A##) have electronic viewfinders.

Sony did release some SLRs in 2010 alongside the A55. They made SLRs before then too. The A700 was the highest end APS-C SLR. The A580 was the last mid-range one. All the three digit digital Alpha bodies (A###) are SLRs.

It sounds like the A55 doesn't have focus peaking, but the A57 and A58 do.


Thanks for this info... Very useful to understand the system. So many options!
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The A58 is within your price range and newer then the ones you mention.
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I'd ad another vote for the A58. The EVF doesn't have the resolution of the better cameras but it's a very capable camera and I used it for years with Minolta and Sony lenses and had no problems.
You might also consider the A390 which had a lever to swap between EVF and OVF, though the A5xx series had a better implementation of this. Quite a neat idea, I thought, though the A390is more limited in other ways.
I have a spreadsheet which has all the major model differences in it I can supply, if you're interested, but highlights are:

- All the 200 and 700 series have no live view.
- All 3-digit cameras have no lens compensation (useful for the Sony kit zooms)
- The A33/35/37 are the smallest (share batteries with the A5000 series and A7)
- The A560/580 are said to have the best OVF but have live-view as well (and DOF preview, missing from many of the earlier cameras) and the bigger battery.
- The A58, A68, A77ii, and A99 models have the new-er MIS shoe but all the rest have the iLSO like your film cameras, which may be an advantage if you like flash.

Oh, there's a much more comprehensive table on mhohner's pages and my short version here
Oh, oh Mhohner's pages, unclick the 'overview' button at the top right to see the table proper. Worth spending some time on!

I'd say the informed choice is between:-

- A33/35/37 for the smallest decent A-mount camera
- A560/580 for good OVF, iLSO shoe, and modern battery (the NP-FM500H)
- The A58/68 for a cheap modern camera
- The A77 /A77ii for the best APS-C camera
- The A850/900 for the nearest FF digital to a film camera, plus the proper angle of view on Minolta FF lenses.
- The A99/99ii for the best modern FF digital

The more recent and best cameras are quite expensive, still.
But there's something to be said for picking up something cheap and trying it out, so you can inform yourself better abvout the things you like/hate.


Edited by Miranda F - 25 March 2021 at 08:54
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Welcome to Dyxum.

The A55 & A57 are still good cameras, while I'd hope to find them a bit cheaper you'd be getting decent value for money, but Ill add another vote for the A58 (I still use mine a fair bit despite having upgraded).

I see the A58 and the K50 were launched on the same day - they are not dissimilar in spec and seem to sell at around the same sort of price on ebay. I got a lot of use out of my A58 and still use it a fair bit when travelling.

These are all SLT cameras with electronic viewfinders - in my opinion an advance on the optical viewfinders you will be used to - but not everyone agrees.

And you don't need to 'adapt' Minolta AF lenses on these cameras, they work together perfectly - I use Minolta AF lenses on my Sony A-mount bodies for most of my shooting.

Regarding flash - most of the Sony A-mount bodies have the same flash shoe as your Minolta 5, but that doesn't mean all Minolta flashes work seamlessly with both. Only the latest Minolta flashes work with digital bodies - the 2500(D), 3600HS(D) and 5600HS(D). Fortunately they will also work with the 5.
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:


You might also consider the A390 which had a lever to swap between EVF and OVF, though the A5xx series had a better implementation of this.


The a390 and a500 series cameras didn't have a choice between EVF and OVF .
They were true SLRs using optical viewfinders with a pentamirror .
They do not have an EVF in any form .

What the switch did was to move a bit inside the pentamirror to expose a tiny sensor and put the image on the cameras rear LCD to give a form of live view .
At the same time the viewfinder is completely blocked off .



Other camera manufacturers used the cameras main sensor to provide live view on the LCD .

Only Sony SLT cameras such as the a58 are DSLRs using EVF's , other brands use OVF's .( Note , I'm not referring to mirror less or bridge cameras here ).

If your after a decent a mount OVF SLR ( with the superior all glass pentaprism rather than pentamirror ) , I'd recommend the a700 or a900/a850 for full frame , but four times the price of an a700 .

If you want an OVF SLR with rear screen live view , go for the a580 .

If you don't care if it's an OVF or EVF , go for the a58 .
More modern and has numerous benefits .

Incidentally , your not adapting Minolta A mount lenses to Sony cameras .
These camera's are all native a mount the same as your Minolta camera , because Sony bought the imagine department off Minolta by the end of 2005 and released the Sony a100 in 2006 .
That was my first digital SLR and I still have now .
I bought that so I could continue using the lenses I had on my Minolta 7000AF .
The 35-70mm f/4 , 70-210mm f/4 and 50mm f/1.7 .
These still get some use on my current kit which is a Song a900 and a77ii .

Enjoy your new camera when you get it .
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Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

... because Sony bought the imagine department off Minolta ...

Love it - typo of the week so far!

The post got me wondering which I would opt for if I had to pick between my A58 (ebay £200) and A900 (ebay £330) and it's really difficult. The A58 can do so much more, but the A900 does what it does so well.

The downsides of the A58 in terms of moving from the Maxxum 5 are the crop factor of the APS-C sensor (lenses will appear to be 1.5x the focal length) and the multi-shoe flash (you would need an adapter to use the same flash on both film and digital). The A900 (and A850) is full frame, same flash shoe as the Maxxum 5. In terms of A mount cameras all but the A58, A77ii and A99ii use the Minolta iiso flash shoe.

But I am digressing up the expense curve - one last option I don't think has been mentioned is the A65, another SLT, the upmarket version of the A57 - one on ebay USA - bidding at $98 as I type.

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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

The A58 is within your price range and newer then the ones you mention.


I see the A58's over $300 - gather that there are not many outthere selling.
If I can find a nicely used one for $250 I think it could be the deal I am after.
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I'd ad another vote for the A58. The EVF doesn't have the resolution of the better cameras but it's a very capable camera and I used it for years with Minolta and Sony lenses and had no problems.
You might also consider the A390 which had a lever to swap between EVF and OVF, though the A5xx series had a better implementation of this. Quite a neat idea, I thought, though the A390is more limited in other ways.
I have a spreadsheet which has all the major model differences in it I can supply, if you're interested, but highlights are:

- All the 200 and 700 series have no live view.
- All 3-digit cameras have no lens compensation (useful for the Sony kit zooms)
- The A33/35/37 are the smallest (share batteries with the A5000 series and A7)
- The A560/580 are said to have the best OVF but have live-view as well (and DOF preview, missing from many of the earlier cameras) and the bigger battery.
- The A58, A68, A77ii, and A99 models have the new-er MIS shoe but all the rest have the iLSO like your film cameras, which may be an advantage if you like flash.

Oh, there's a much more comprehensive table on mhohner's pages and my short version here
Oh, oh Mhohner's pages, unclick the 'overview' button at the top right to see the table proper. Worth spending some time on!

I'd say the informed choice is between:-

- A33/35/37 for the smallest decent A-mount camera
- A560/580 for good OVF, iLSO shoe, and modern battery (the NP-FM500H)
- The A58/68 for a cheap modern camera
- The A77 /A77ii for the best APS-C camera
- The A850/900 for the nearest FF digital to a film camera, plus the proper angle of view on Minolta FF lenses.
- The A99/99ii for the best modern FF digital

The more recent and best cameras are quite expensive, still.
But there's something to be said for picking up something cheap and trying it out, so you can inform yourself better abvout the things you like/hate.

Awesome information here. Many thanks!!!

I am searching the A58's as many have recommended it... But also open to a a580 as well.

I've been a legacy glass shooter for 5+ years; I doubt I will get into higher end glass, so I think any of the middle tiers will suit me well

(I use a lot of Takumars / Legacy Pentax / Olympus OM)
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

... because Sony bought the imagine department off Minolta ...


The downsides of the A58 in terms of moving from the Maxxum 5 are the crop factor of the APS-C sensor (lenses will appear to be 1.5x the focal length) and the multi-shoe flash (you would need an adapter to use the same flash on both film and digital). The A900 (and A850) is full frame, same flash shoe as the Maxxum 5. In terms of A mount cameras all but the A58, A77ii and A99ii use the Minolta iiso flash shoe.

But I am digressing up the expense curve - one last option I don't think has been mentioned is the A65, another SLT, the upmarket version of the A57 - one on ebay USA - bidding at $98 as I type.



Down the rabbit hole I go... I am researching as I type...

Re flash - Any flash photography I can deal with my main rig (Pentax K-50) as I have a nice af360fgz flash unit for it - so I am not worried about it.
My main goal in this purchase is to experiment on a new kit (because of the minolta glass I have laying around)... Now, If I like it, I've been eyeing some Minolta AF macros that look really good (especially that 100mm).
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Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

[QUOTE=Miranda F]
Only Sony SLT cameras such as the a58 are DSLRs using EVF's , other brands use OVF's .( Note , I'm not referring to mirror less or bridge cameras here ).

If your after a decent a mount OVF SLR ( with the superior all glass pentaprism rather than pentamirror ) , I'd recommend the a700 or a900/a850 for full frame , but four times the price of an a700 .

If you want an OVF SLR with rear screen live view , go for the a580 .

If you don't care if it's an OVF or EVF , go for the a58 .
More modern and has numerous benefits .


Thank for this info... Lots to take in, liking this forum a lot thus far!
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