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The A77m2 has a 2.4mp 1.09x EVF, the A57 has a 1.44mp, 1.04x EVF. So, the EVF of the A77m2 is better.
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Switch systems. The answer is "no". The EVF's are better not brighter, though you can adjust the brightness in menu, it's about adjustable as the seat back in economy. The a77 / a77II are better builds as "enthusiast" level cameras as apposed to the entry level a57.
The problem i think you are having is an old one that pits the OVF vs EVF in bright daylight. If you're looking for something comparable to the a57 with an OVF in a-mount then the answer is an a580.

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LA- The idea here is not to change systems. Certainly the mirrorless cameras are the future, right now I don't want to start over to spend plenty and relearn.   When or if I do, I'll try to determine which system I'm most comfortable with. My inquiry here is to determine which of the obsolete A-mounts is best fit.


You're saying the A57 viewfinder is no worse than the others and they aren't any better?
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Originally posted by LowRyter LowRyter wrote:

LA- The idea here is not to change systems. Certainly the mirrorless cameras are the future, right now I don't want to start over to spend plenty and relearn.   When or if I do, I'll try to determine which system I'm most comfortable with. My inquiry here is to determine which of the obsolete A-mounts is best fit.


You're saying the A57 viewfinder is no worse than the others and they aren't any better?
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The a57's EVF is not a good one. The Olympus OM-D E-M1 uses the same tech but they're night and day different. The a77's EVF is better than the a57's but no brighter and still not as good as the Olympus EVF.
 



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Get a very big hat or an a580. I didn't have the A580 very long but it's worthy of the praise for performance, the build could have been better and the Eye relief is shallow.
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Originally posted by LowRyter LowRyter wrote:

So my bottomline questions, will one of those have a brighter view finder?

I've never heard that there is a difference in EVF brightness among the A57, A58, A65, A68, A77, or A77II.

Will they work worse or better with me lenses?

The A68, A77, and A77II should work better with your lenses than the A57 thanks to improved AF systems. They also have higher resolution sensors. There are many differences among the three that might or might not matter to you, but if you don't want to go into all that, just look for the best price, which will be attached to an A68 or A77.
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Get a very big hat or an a580. I didn't have the A580 very long but it's worthy of the praise for performance, the build could have been better and the Eye relief is shallow.
I nevr used the A580, but Sony cameras were known for lousy OVF's. The A77ii EVF is better then the OVF of my A100.
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I notice people get hung up on the term "brightness" - I assumed you meant the general EVF quality. What do you mean? And what are your settings? That can makes a difference.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Get a very big hat or an a580. I didn't have the A580 very long but it's worthy of the praise for performance, the build could have been better and the Eye relief is shallow.
I nevr used the A580, but Sony cameras were known for lousy OVF's. The A77ii EVF is better then the OVF of my A100.

The Sony DSLR-A580 was well regarded and thought to be the best OVF DSLR Sony made. I personally feel it's a Sony branded A-Mount Nikon considering what it ushered in.
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I guess people differ.

It seems the A580 viewfinder is better then cameras of the same generation:
"The Sony A580's viewfinder is similar in size to the viewfinder we saw in the A100 DSLR, but falls slightly behind a couple of its competitors on the market in terms of magnification. The viewing area is 95% accurate (the lab measured closer to 94%) with a 0.80x magnification ratio."
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

I notice people get hung up on the term "brightness" - I assumed you meant the general EVF quality. What do you mean? And what are your settings? That can makes a difference.


It's dim, not bright.

"Manual" set to max brightness (+1) and now on "Auto" for a try.

I tried it back to back with a fellow with Canon Rebel a few months ago and no comparison.

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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

I guess people differ.

It seems the A580 viewfinder is better then cameras of the same generation:
"The Sony A580's viewfinder is similar in size to the viewfinder we saw in the A100 DSLR, but falls slightly behind a couple of its competitors on the market in terms of magnification. The viewing area is 95% accurate (the lab measured closer to 94%) with a 0.80x magnification ratio."
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The OVF of the a580 is not the best ever produced. It's comparable to other APS-C OVF's, It's the best Sony OVF DSLR. The a900 has the distinction of being Sony's best OVF. I've had the pleasure of using the a850, a580 and the a68 at an overlapping period while looking for a replacement for my ailing a77. During this time my full compliment of Olympus cameras were also in use Four Thirds (E-3, E-5) and Micro Four Thirds (OM-D E-M5 and OM-D EM-1) Of the Three Sony's the a850 was the most enjoyable to use, I still have it. The a580 was the best performer but died when it slid off my camera bag lying on a hardwood floor falling less than 8 inches. I wont get into the a68 it was a fail in my books and sold it on.

In full disclosure I should add that the a57 I had was primarily my wife's to use. I ended up with it and sold it when she borrowed my Olympus OM-D EM-5 and refused to give it back.

To replace the ailing a77 I found a "new old stock" a77 to pair with the a850, new a77II paired with a low millage a99. I did think about the a99II but I have never had a client ask for a print larger than 11"X14". Having tooled about with the a99 for a while, the a99II would have been the correct choice.

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