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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 October 2020 at 18:33
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

The EVF of the A68 is not that great. Can you see it before you buy? Making sure it is not a disappointment.

The kit 18-55 is fine, but do not expect it to be better then your Sigma 17-70. Better use the spare money for a 16-50/2.8 if you want something better.

I think we need to be clear about what 'better' means.
Yes, indeed. If you reread my remark, I said nothing about 'better;, I just said I do not expect it to be better - why would that be "nonsense"? Did you test the Sigma 17-70/2.8-4? What makes you think the Sony 18-55 II is better?

Looking at Optical Limits the 17-70 is comparable to the Pentax kitlens, but having more range and a wider aperture (a full stop at the long end). They did not test it on Sony.

Anyway, the problem with (cheap) kitlenses is not so much the lens design, these usually are solid. The problem is materials and production technology. With development of both over the decades, these lenses got better and stayed better.
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Originally posted by LowRyter LowRyter wrote:

Forget what I said. I just ordered an A77ii. 10k shutter count. Downside is overseas delivery. No lens.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 October 2020 at 19:16
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

The EVF of the A68 is not that great. Can you see it before you buy? Making sure it is not a disappointment.

The kit 18-55 is fine, but do not expect it to be better then your Sigma 17-70. Better use the spare money for a 16-50/2.8 if you want something better.

I think we need to be clear about what 'better' means.
Yes, indeed. If you reread my remark, I said nothing about 'better;, I just said I do not expect it to be better - why would that be "nonsense"? Did you test the Sigma 17-70/2.8-4? What makes you think the Sony 18-55 II is better?

Looking at Optical Limits the 17-70 is comparable to the Pentax kitlens, but having more range and a wider aperture (a full stop at the long end). They did not test it on Sony.

Anyway, the problem with (cheap) kitlenses is not so much the lens design, these usually are solid. The problem is materials and production technology. With development of both over the decades, these lenses got better and stayed better.


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ok, a side by side comparison.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

@QuietOC - as you are usually right: what do you mean by "None have live view above the LO frame rate"? My A77m2 behaves the same at the HI (8fps) setting through the viewfinder and the back screen. Or do you mean something else?

I am talking about what both the rear screen and EVF show during bursts.

E-mount cameras since the A6300 show a live video feed from the sensor at 8 FPS (HI). At HI+ they show a slide show of previously captured frames. The A99II is the only A-mount camera that got this. All previous SLTs show live feed from the sensor only on LO and show a slide show of previously taken frames at any higher frame rate.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LowRyter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2020 at 17:25
I got the new camera today. Just charging the battery. It's an import with converter plug for the charger. It was shipped from S Korea on Monday at my door at noon. Kudos to vendor and UPS.

It looks like new. In original box and packing. Sling is folded like it hasn't been used, same for the charger still wrapped in plastic. The battery was in the camera. I'm guessing it might have been a demo.

I put an old battery in it and adjusted the menu settings. Going out to purchase a new Class 4 card and will take a few shots today.
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LowRyter, buy better memory cards - go for class 10 at least. You'll have a longer burst when photographing sports and animals.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote DutchMM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2020 at 19:22
Lucky you! I bought my a77ii in 2015, IIRC. Still works very well, I still have the box ... but the sling .. is somewhere South of slung.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LowRyter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2020 at 20:23
Originally posted by minolta_mutley minolta_mutley wrote:

LowRyter, buy better memory cards - go for class 10 at least. You'll have a longer burst when photographing sports and animals.


Yeah, well I didn't know about SD cards since I haven't purchased one years. Got a class 10 and it's SD** (something). 64 GB.

I was just mentioning what was in the manual. Thanks for advice.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LowRyter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2020 at 20:25
First impressions.

Luckily the menus are similar to the A57, just more options.

One thing I like is the two dials. I set the rear dial for EV compensation, front to control A (or S, for whatever mode).

I'm not found of the toggle button, it's a little jumpy. Camera is also noticeably heavier. Both should be OK with a little practice and muscle memory. Spot AF is a little jumpy too.

Pictures look fine. What's the consensus about Standard color or Vivid?
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That additional dial was one of the reasons I got the A77m2.

You do not shoot RAW?
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I usually am in AF-C Lock-on AF: Flexible Spot or Expand Flexible spot. But trying different settings (including AF drive speed and AF track duration) will help you.

I have my JPEG on Standard colour atm. I am with most cameras unsure what is better. At some point I find standard a bit boring and then I go for vivid and after some time I find that too much. So, I cannot help you here.

There are some youtube videos that might be useful, just do a search.
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Originally posted by LowRyter LowRyter wrote:

First impressions.

Pictures look fine. What's the consensus about Standard color or Vivid?


Depends on what I'm shooting, and with what lens. But i usually get by with RAW + JPEG "Neutral" -0.3EV. / DR OFF / Multi Metering / "A" Auto Focus and set the White balance myself.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote LowRyter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2020 at 20:57
Originally posted by dxqcanada dxqcanada wrote:

That additional dial was one of the reasons I got the A77m2.

You do not shoot RAW?


Nope. Gave up on Raw a long time ago. I suppose some still use it. JPG are just too good and too many shots taken to fool with Raw.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2020 at 21:28
Originally posted by LowRyter LowRyter wrote:

Originally posted by dxqcanada dxqcanada wrote:

That additional dial was one of the reasons I got the A77m2.

You do not shoot RAW?


Nope. Gave up on Raw a long time ago. I suppose some still use it. JPG are just too good and too many shots taken to fool with Raw.


I'm curious, what program are you using to process your images?
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