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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

Iíll go ...

OM is the SLR heritage as in OM-1, -2, etc.
D is digital (not film)
E is the digital SLR line Olympus had when it was just 4/3 rather than M4/3
M is probably the M4/3 line

Give credit where it's due, the OM stands for Olympus Maitani. Yoshihisa Maitani was chief designer for Olympus.
It still is a quite a random set of letters. it is named after both the film cameras (OM) and the digital SLR's (E) - so, it says first "SLR Digital" (OM-D) and then "DSLR-Micro" (E-M) - just E-M or just OM-D would have made more sense.... IMHO of course. The DSLR's were just plane E-1, E-300, E-620 - a bit like the Sony scheme.

Some more history: the Olympus OM-1 was originally called the M-1, but Leica was not amused and threatened to sue. So, it became the Olympus M-1 or OM-1.

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I think I'll stay out of the nomenclature debate - though I will admit to being a little surprised to find the Nex 6 was newer than the Nex 7.

Lee - you have a point - adapting lenses is not the aim, it just seems nice to be able to do it and thus to have a decent range of lenses I could use - but probably won't very often. They do. after all, work nicely on my A77 & A58. I suppose I might pack the adapter and the lightweight primes (35/1.8, 50/1.8 & 85/28) if I didn't want to take an A-mount body on a short holiday break. I guess the real point is to persuade myself that I won't be tempted to buy more E mount lenses.

Howard - the Nex 7 is still a contender, but I am leaning towards the Nex 6 at present - I'm not convinced it's worth paying the extra for an A6000. It's between the wifi/16MP and 24Mp - I know 16Mp is enough really, but since I've had the A99ii I have come to find that even 24MP seems a bit small. The wifi is a 'nice to have' more than a necessity. I'm not yet sure the apps reach 'nice to have' status, but they do seem fun to try.



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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I think I'll stay out of the nomenclature debate - though I will admit to being a little surprised to find the Nex 6 was newer than the Nex 7.



Hush, Their numbering system makes perfect sense to me now I re-watched Tom Lehrer's New Math. I just can't tell if "Nex" is Elvish or Dwarvish because the A1 is definitely the One Ring to Rule them All....
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:


Lee - you have a point - adapting lenses is not the aim, it just seems nice to be able to do it and thus to have a decent range of lenses I could use - but probably won't very often. They do. after all, work nicely on my A77 & A58. I suppose I might pack the adapter and the lightweight primes (35/1.8, 50/1.8 & 85/28) if I didn't want to take an A-mount body on a short holiday break. I guess the real point is to persuade myself that I won't be tempted to buy more E mount lenses.


If you plan to adapt SAM (how much I loved them) lenses each body is the same up to a6300, which is the older one enabling PDAF with La-ea3. For older bodies, including the lovely a6000, this is not, resulting in a very slow AF perfomance. Thus, the only solution is La-ea4 and you will see no differences at all.

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:


Howard - the Nex 7 is still a contender, but I am leaning towards the Nex 6 at present - I'm not convinced it's worth paying the extra for an A6000. It's between the wifi/16MP and 24Mp - I know 16Mp is enough really, but since I've had the A99ii I have come to find that even 24MP seems a bit small. The wifi is a 'nice to have' more than a necessity. I'm not yet sure the apps reach 'nice to have' status, but they do seem fun to try.


A 16MP camera allows a 50x70 cm print @250 dpi, thus I don't believe it woudl cause issues, unless you start pixel peeping on your PC. Moreover I guess with such large print you'd start seeing shot issues (misfocus, ac, blurred corners ecc) before losing resolution due to print process..
I would skip the nex 7 as it is an hybrid among Nex6 and A6000 more expensive than nex6 and someone debates the difference between the Nex6 and the a6000. If you don't want to pay for an a6000 (I don't now in UK, here in Italy an used a6000 with the 16-50 can be had for 300Ä) just buy a nex6, bt I would not pay no more than 200Ä for the body+kit.




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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

I look forward to the cease-and-desist from Premier Foods in the United Kingdom and in North America by Kraft Heinz.


Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I think I'll stay out of the nomenclature debate - though I will admit to being a little surprised to find the Nex 6 was newer than the Nex 7.
The NEX 7 was the flagship model and the NEX 6 was the lower tier camera, like the 700si and the 600si. Sony referred to the NEX-7 as the flagship model in the NEX-6 press announcement.

Originally posted by Barrin Barrin wrote:

I don't now in UK, here in Italy an used a6000 with the 16-50 can be had for 300Ä
You mean used? As over here the cheapest set I can find is Ä439,- new.
Edit: I have to learn to read..... Sorry for the confusion.
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It took a lot of work to figure out the brand joke. I went to the Kraft Heinz page, clicked on A1 and got 'Error Code: 403 (Forbidden )'. Spooky. Like Sony, I suspect, I had never heard of A1 sauce. More of an HP man myself (and a host of model-naming problems there too). A1 is made in England and HP in Holland. Hoe kan dat?

I never saw the need to go from NEX-7 to NEX-6 and by the time I was ready to upgrade there was the A7, which is a different ball game.
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Addy - The 700si and 600si is a good comparison - the 600si being a later, more advanced but 'lower' model.

Barrin - most of my internal motor lenses are SAM, certainly the primes, but I do have SSMs (DT 16-60 & CZ 24-70) that don't make so much sense on my new 'snapshot' camera - but I also have the possibility of extending the range given by the 16-50 OSS with a Sigma 12-24 HSM and a Tamron 16-300 PZD - would the last two work? If so how well?

Part of my intent with the LA-EA3 is future proofing if I get an early model 7 series in the future (I can't see LA-EA5 compatible bodies being in my price bracket for many years yet), I could go LA-EA4, which would certainly extend the lenses available (massively), but I didn't really see the point in adding the SLT mirror to my first mirrorless camera. I have never been worried much about AF speed, is it really that much worse with the LA-EA3?

As for 16MP - intellectually I see I have no need for more - it's just being used to the cropping possibilities of 42MP.

The Nex 6 is the frontrunner, not least because the Nex 7 had the 18-55 as the kit lens, it's not often sold with a 16-50 and buying separately seems pricier. If I get the 6 with a 16-50 for under £150 I wont have wasted much if I end up not using it much. If I find myself using it more than I anticipate I may upgrade fairly quickly.
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Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

It took a lot of work to figure out the brand joke. I went to the Kraft Heinz page, clicked on A1 and got 'Error Code: 403 (Forbidden )'. Spooky. Like Sony, I suspect, I had never heard of A1 sauce. More of an HP man myself (and a host of model-naming problems there too). A1 is made in England and HP in Holland. Hoe kan dat?

I guess that's a problem in a global form. For those who didn't "get it": A.1. was officially registered as a trademark in the U.S. in 1895, and imported and distributed in the United States by G.F. Heublein & Brothers in 1906. Beginning in the early 1960s, it was marketed in the U.S. as "A.1 Steak Sauce".[8]

R. J. Reynolds, which merged with Nabisco in 1985 to form RJR Nabisco, acquired Heublein in 1982. In 1999, Kraft Foods acquired Nabisco, including the license for the A.1. brand in North America.

A.1. brand in the UK was owned by Ranks Hovis McDougall for a time and currently owned by Premier Foods.
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

I guess that's a problem in a global form.
Well, we have Google and even without knowing (thinking) about A1 I still got the gist.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

I guess that's a problem in a global form.
Well, we have Google and even without knowing (thinking) about A1 I still got the gist.

Very Clever. I'll wager you got the J. R. R. Tolkien reference too.
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:



Barrin - most of my internal motor lenses are SAM, certainly the primes, but I do have SSMs (DT 16-60 & CZ 24-70) that don't make so much sense on my new 'snapshot' camera - but I also have the possibility of extending the range given by the 16-50 OSS with a Sigma 12-24 HSM and a Tamron 16-300 PZD - would the last two work? If so how well?

Part of my intent with the LA-EA3 is future proofing if I get an early model 7 series in the future (I can't see LA-EA5 compatible bodies being in my price bracket for many years yet), I could go LA-EA4, which would certainly extend the lenses available (massively), but I didn't really see the point in adding the SLT mirror to my first mirrorless camera. I have never been worried much about AF speed, is it really that much worse with the LA-EA3?

I tried it once with 85 SAM and gave up (La-ea3). I guess it does not depend on the lens but on the body. Surely someone on this forum hs much more experience than me with this. Anyway, my idea is that there is no point in adapting SLR lenses in the needs you are describing in this thread.

Even to me it seems that nex6 would suffice your needs. Guessing ust the tiing is now, since spring is coming and prices will resatrt ciming up (also considering that the covid vaccine rain is hopefully promising a hot season less strange than the last one).
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Thanks Barrin. I had a little trawl through the forum and found several others commenting on the very poor performance of the A6000 with the LA-EA3. I think I will abandon that idea! I will watch out for LA-EA4s but am moving to the idea of a second E mount zoom to give me a little variety; the 55-210 OSS seems the obvious choice.
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You need at minimum the A6100 or A6300 to get phase-detect AF with the LA-EA1, LA-EA3, or LA-EA5.
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

It took a lot of work to figure out the brand joke. I went to the Kraft Heinz page, clicked on A1 and got 'Error Code: 403 (Forbidden )'. Spooky. Like Sony, I suspect, I had never heard of A1 sauce. More of an HP man myself (and a host of model-naming problems there too). A1 is made in England and HP in Holland. Hoe kan dat?

I guess that's a problem in a global form. For those who didn't "get it": A.1. was officially registered as a trademark in the U.S. in 1895, and imported and distributed in the United States by G.F. Heublein & Brothers in 1906. Beginning in the early 1960s, it was marketed in the U.S. as "A.1 Steak Sauce".[8]

R. J. Reynolds, which merged with Nabisco in 1985 to form RJR Nabisco, acquired Heublein in 1982. In 1999, Kraft Foods acquired Nabisco, including the license for the A.1. brand in North America.

A.1. brand in the UK was owned by Ranks Hovis McDougall for a time and currently owned by Premier Foods.

FWIW in the UK (and I think elsewhere too) brand names are not protected. Which is why of course Google use lots of colours in their name, because that makes it a trademark which is protected. You can call your camera 'google' without the colours and it's not an infringement (though they can probably afford more expensive lawyers than you can ...)
In the UK there used to be two different companies selling clothes both of which were called John Lewis and there are probably a lot more firms called that too, selling other things, which is permitted. Curiously enough, both firms owned the same store at different times in my city.
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