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Post Options Post Options   Quote mikey2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 April 2021 at 18:57
I’m a huge fan of my 55-210. While it isn’t exactly pocket sized when mounted, the lens isn’t much bigger than a can of red bull.   It’s also very light.   It’s easy to stash in a coat pocket etc.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2manycamera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 April 2021 at 19:15
Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

The 55-210 seems the only option in terms of size and price with the added advantage of OSS - what else could replace it for less than £150?
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One problem is that it is too easy to start thinking of this purchase as the basis for my entire photography - with lots of lens decisions to make - but it isn't, it's a small, easy to carry holiday snapper. I don't see it featuring in many Dyxum challenges.


When I bought the original NEX5, my sole reason was to use my many MF Rokkors, Zuikos and Leica M glass.That persisted for 2-3 years. That was 10 years ago.

When I moved to the NEX6, I started buying AF E mount lenses, mostly primes and the LA-EA1 &2 to use with A-mount.

Now that I've had the a6600 for close to 2 years, it is my APS-C platform. FF is still 70% a99 (stage photography if the theaters ever open again), 30% a7RII. If I still did Eventing work, the a99 would be used a lot more.

Guess what I'm getting at is that as the E/FE platform matures, I'm using it a lot more than I would have ever thought. Still won't replace A mount completely, but the percentages continue in flux.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AsD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2021 at 11:57
If you're still looking, LCE have an a6000 with the 16-50mm for £299.99.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2021 at 13:04
E-mount can surely be the aps-c platform (even for some pro work).
a6000 is still great and today cheap option, if in-body image stabilisation is not important.
a6000 can be the second body for OSS lenses.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil Wood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 April 2021 at 21:42
Thanks for the input - LCE sold the A6000 before I got to them. Not to worry I'm not in a rush.

I would like IBIS (it's what brought me to Sony in the first place), but can't really justify the cost of a more recent body. I'm still happy with A-mount for most of my photography, I just fancy something more compact for holiday snaps and the like.

I guess I will move to full frame E mount in time - unless something more attractive comes along. Like 2manycameras I see the LA-EA5 and an A1 or somesuch to replace my A99ii when it dies in some years time. If it died tommorrow I'd just get another.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2021 at 08:06
I was waiting years a small a6000 alike full frame body with IBIS. It was likely so, that when it comes out, will have 24MP sensor. My idea was to use mostly e-mount aps-c lenses (cropped up to 10 MP, enough for lot of my needs) and replace my lovely e-mount aps-c 24/1,8ZA (about 50% and more mounted on NEX7), with full frame 35mm prime for using full capacity of full frame sensor. So - smallest full frame body with IBIS and smallest and lightest lens collection.

It was interesting. At this time (2013-2015) the idea about alike A7c camera was foolish for lot of full frame users and reviewers, and Sony was not working on that. Today we can have Sony's A7c, bud I was thinking I am foolish and replaced NEX7 with A6500 in 2017.

The idea of my reply is - I was not enough patient. As A6500 sells today much cheaper and second hand lot cheaper, I do not see I can replace A6500 with A7c (body) so often. I am little bit unhappy, because full frame can be used with higher ISO.

Edit: it was logical, that alike A7c is coming.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2021 at 10:12
Full frame is about a stop better yes, but....

The A7c with 50/2.5 weighs (509+174) 683gr at €2500,-
The A6400 with 35/1.8 OSS weighs (403+154) 547gr at €1338,-

These two combinations are equivalent, one is APS-C, the other full frame - but the APS-C set is cheaper and noticeably lighter. And the full frame low light advantage is negated by the f/1.8 aperture of the APS-C set.

With the 50/2.5 we at last have a true equivalence set and it proofs the place of APS-C: cheaper and lighter.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2021 at 11:00
Agree, this is why I stay with A6500 at today. Some day I probably make replacement with small FF and IBIS body, but not now, not so quiclky.
35/1,8 OSS is not so tasty for me - I love 35mm FF angle. So my best prime is still 24/1,8ZA from 2012 and it serves me perfectly. This is the only lens I will not replace till I stay with aps-c. I had in my hans 35/1,8 OSS some day and I sold it, because my older 24/1,8ZA was so much better for me, and sharper.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote waldo_posth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2021 at 11:27
Wouldn't the corresponding APS-C model not be the A6600? - because the A7C has, of course, IBIS.

The A6600 with 35/1.8 OSS weighs 504+154gr and the combo is €1730,- at Amazon.de.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2021 at 11:35
If all lenses have OSS, then on need to buy body with IBIS.
All my primes have no OSS, so for me is better to compare with aps-c IBIS body.
But this about lenses. I think all Sony's FF bodies will have IBIS. But who knows!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2021 at 11:44
Originally posted by Aavo Aavo wrote:


The idea of my reply is - I was not enough patient. As A6500 sells today much cheaper and second hand lot cheaper, I do not see I can replace A6500 with A7c (body) so often. I am little bit unhappy, because full frame can be used with higher ISO.

Edit: it was logical, that alike A7c is coming.


A larger sensor doesn't help in low light. Except when lenses allow shallower depth-of-field than those available for APS-C. It is the larger lens that matters not sensor size. Larger sensors require higher ISO to capture a similar image. That difference is not an advantage (or disadvantage).

The Sony E 35 F1.8 OSS seems to be the softest 35 mm lens ever. I find the lowly Sony FE 50 F1.8 better on full-frame than the normal APS-C primes. The recent full-frame 35's like the GM offer better optical performance for APS-C, but they are large, expensive, and lack stabilization.

The lowly Rokinon 35 F2.8 convinced me to invest in a full-frame body instead of trying the E 24 F1.8 ZA. I am sure it is a nice enough lens.

Edited by QuietOC - 27 April 2021 at 11:54
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2021 at 11:53
My idea was to replace aps-c 24/1,8ZA with FF35mm prime.
The lens for low light shooting.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2021 at 11:56
Originally posted by Aavo Aavo wrote:

My idea was to replace aps-c 24/1,8ZA with FF35mm prime.
The lens for low light shooting.

That will work. There are many larger 35's available. The GM is the easy choice.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2021 at 12:44
Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

Wouldn't the corresponding APS-C model not be the A6600? - because the A7C has, of course, IBIS.

The A6600 with 35/1.8 OSS weighs 504+154gr and the combo is €1730,- at Amazon.de.
No, as the 35/1.8 OSS has OSS while the 50/2.5G does not. The combination A7c with 50/2.5 is comparable to the A6400 (maybe A6100) with the 35/1.8 OSS - to keep it equivalent I chose one form of stabilisation. There is no full frame 50mm lens with OSS.

The 35/1.8 OSS could do with an update, yes, but that is not the point I am making.
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