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Post Options Post Options   Quote adhox Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 October 2019 at 11:39
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Mark Galer has no information on his website about his experiences with the 70-350. "Sharp enough" is a bit non-descriptive, could be between "not that sharp, but sharp enough" and "it is sharp enough, in fact, it is extremely sharp"

Hope you get some more information this weekend

It was just a reply to a comment on FB. In conversation, Mark's pretty straight in his assessments of Sony products. I should have an idea as to how to read the comment soon enough.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2019 at 13:24
Sony's recent tele zooms are generally pretty sharp at full stretch. They can often be a bit weak in the corners either at the wide end or in the middle.
Testing the lens is useful so you know which (if any) combinations of the zoom and aperture range to avoid in critical shots.

The easiest way to check this is to find some distant trees and fire off shots at various apertures and zooms, and check to see if the distant tree branches near the corners are hazy, blurred, or show colour fringes.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote morph1970 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2019 at 14:19
Ive gpt quite high hopes for the 70-350 as it was the one lens that was really missing from my setup being that it was relatively small and light weight compare to the FE mount options. I pre ordered it and pick it up tomorrow and all being well getting some early use out of it on Sunday.

I think for what i need it for it will be fine. It was tricky to fond any decent reviews of it and I wouldnt normally pre order a lens so we will see how it goes.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2019 at 18:38
If recent Sony telezooms were really generally pretty sharp, I would have gotten the 70-300 already as I use both APS-C and full-frame. If the 70-350 is better, I will get that - if not, I am back at not knowing what to get.....

Good to see several people around here pick one up. Interested in your experiences!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote floydbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 October 2019 at 05:19
The sun didn't want to come out today so just did some experimentation in the backyard. I'm pretty chuffed with my shiny new 70-350. Below are some side-by-sides with the 55-210, taken at roughly 70mm and 200mm and the A6000 set to auto, with a '100% crop' underneath each one. 55-210 on the left, 70-350 on the right.









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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2019 at 09:40
I could not find this thread, but it is in the camera talk forum while most of the talk is about the lenses

Anyway, still no proper reviews of the 70-350
Looking at the pictures floydbloke posted, it looks like the 55-210 is sharper (if it is indeed the one on the left). No EXIF, so, I do not know if the settings are different. Also, the A6000 might not be optimised for use with the newer lens.

So, I still do not know if the 70-350 is better then the 70-300 or the 70-200.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Kilkry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2019 at 10:12
Thanks for the comparison.

There was this one https://www.alphashooters.com/compare/sony-e-70-350mm-g-vs-fe-70-300-g/ too, where the new lens seems a little bit more soft and glowy wide open at 350mm than the FE does at 300mm. Just a little, it is a comparison.

As for optimization, I suppose that has mainly to do with AF (else that door opens a whole slew of queries) and haven't seen anyone claim it's lightning even with the newer APS-C cameras yet. Of course if I wanted native reach for APS-C I sure would not buy the shorter FE since it is approx 300euro dearer than this lens in Sweden.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2019 at 12:19
I saw that rolling review on Alphashooters. It does not feel conclusive, but if it is correct, the 70-300 is the better choice - I can get a used one for the same price as the 70-350. I was hoping for a basic review by now from Mark Galer

As I have both full frame and APS-C cameras, the choice is not that simple. I would like a small travel lens to go with my A6400, but the 70-350 is not that much smaller then the 70-300, which has the advantage of being full frame. The 70-300 is not that good according to most reviews, so, I was hoping the 70-350 was smaller and better, making it a good choice as I could use the 70-400G on the A7r2. Still waiting for a thorough review I guess.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2019 at 12:33
I stand corrected, it seems Mark Galer did a review according to SAR - it is not on his website, that is why I missed it. Will have a look at it
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2019 at 13:10
Spending $2000 on a Sony zoom doesn't guarantee it will be sharp

There's probably near 50/50 odds a particular 70-350G will be sharper than a particular 70-300G. But 100% of the time the 70-350G will have a faster AF system, support 20 FPS tracking on the A9, and continuous tracking at small apertures.

The 70-200 G OSS and 70-300 G OSS could use updating. I could certainly use one of these.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2019 at 16:33
I do not have an A9, nor would I use 20 fps. Neither lens is US$2000,-.

Like I said before, the 70-350 is (slightly) bigger then I would like it to be and the reviews of the 70-300 are less then stellar. I am hoping the 70-350 is better. Where do you get the 50/50 remark from? If they are comparable IQ wise (not just sharpness!!) the 70-300 makes more sense I guess, if the 70-350 is clearly better, the 70-350 makes more sense.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2019 at 16:38
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

and the reviews of the 70-300 are less then stellar
Which reviews are you referring to Addy? I seem to have drawn a good copy of the FE70-300G since I have no issues using it at f5.6 and 300 mm. I find it plenty sharp and contrasty across the entire range.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2019 at 20:55
The user reviews here on Dyxum echo your experience, but look at these:
enthusiastphotoblog.com: "Lens sharpness is a bit disappointing for a lens with the G moniker"
photographyblog.com: "Image sharpness is impressively high across the focal range and at all apertures"
ephotozine.com: "performance is very good throughout, albeit tailing off at the edges as we zoom in"
opticallimits.com: "You are buying such lenses primarily for its potential at the very long end of the range which is where the performance may not be bad but it certainly doesn't reflect the promises of a G-class lens nor its high price tag" and they add: "we'd rather recommend the Sony FE 70-200mm f/4 G OSS instead"
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Post Options Post Options   Quote balacau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2019 at 21:29
I know the last few posts have been concerning the newly released lenses but I'm still not sure if the price of the a6600 when compared to the a6400 (price has obviously dropped since its release) is justified. For me at least...

The a6500 is also now within my budget (as is the a77-II DSLT).

Not an easy choice to make really. Not for me anyway as I thought the a6500 was the answer to my entry into the e-mount world. Now...I'm just not so sure.
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