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    Posted: 17 December 2020 at 15:52
quick question on raw file size/shape

if you select 16:9 as your shooting frame for stills and then shoot RAW + JPG, do you get:
- 3:2 raw and 16:9 jpg, or
- 16:9 raw and jpg

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Raw files are always full sensor except when the APS-C/Super35 crop is enabled. The only other setting that seems to get applied to raw files is the shading compensation.

The preview gets whatever in camera editing you have enabled. For example you can shoot RAW only with B/W Creative Style and use red or yellow peaking for manual focus and still get full color raw.

Edited by QuietOC - 17 December 2020 at 22:12
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 December 2020 at 16:35
So, 3:2 RAW and 16:9 jpg
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dCap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 December 2020 at 21:58
Thank you - I know there is a manufacturer out their that made their RAWs match the shape of the composition.

I thought it was the Canon 6D II, but just checked and the 6D II and the one 5D model I looked at just have scaled down lower res raws) ... I'm almost certain someone put out a camera that writes 3:2, 5:4, 16:9 raw files.

Not Sony then, boooo, shame, EASY FIRMWARE UPDATE Y'ALL!
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Lightroom (when I used it way back when) crops the raw images to 16:9 but you can easily adjust to full 3:2 image. I was using the a99.
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It is called RAW for a reason.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2020 at 10:29
Originally posted by JST1 JST1 wrote:

Lightroom (when I used it way back when) crops the raw images to 16:9 but you can easily adjust to full 3:2 image. I was using the a99.
That is still the case. With ny A7 III the Import screen of Lightroom Classic shows the JPG cropped and the ARW 3:2. After importing the crop is applied to the ARW to make it 16:9 but when you use the cropping tool the full 3:2 area is visible. (Not so for the JPG.)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2020 at 10:53
It is setting you can turn off, isn't it?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2020 at 11:32
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

It is setting you can turn off, isn't it?
Possibly, but it's not clear to me how, not that I use this feature much.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dCap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2020 at 14:12
Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

It is called RAW for a reason.


I would personally like my RAW files to still be RAW in terms of colors/exposure and flexibility etc. but to have the 16:9 shape asked for when composing. Ideally more shapes too.

An option would be ideal (and require very little code). Save my raws as 3:2 or the 16:9 I'm asking for. Wish I could find the one canon (nikon) body that broke the trend and wrote 5:4 or 16:9 raw files (as requested). Still, I think it was only one model that did it.

Find it a little odd that the Sony a7 specs show just two options: 3:2 and 16:9. Doesn't even have square. Pretty sure all my fujis/Pan can shoot 4:3, 3:2, 16:9, and 1:1. Perhaps the overlap of sony shooters and instagram posters isn't a big enough set?

Not being a video shooter, I'm guessing external rigs offer the 18:9 and wider framing options in video as anything 'professional' isn't gonna stay at 16:9. Although I'm sure video producers like a bit of breathing space to move their crop up/down a bit during post. Glad I'm not in that arena.

Edited by dCap - 18 December 2020 at 14:23
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2020 at 15:15
My A7r4 has 3:2, 4:3, 19:9 and 1:1 aspect ratios
My A6400 has 3:2, 16:9 and 1:1

The camera saves what you have set and some RAW converters use that to auto crop - that is the best of both worlds.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote dCap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2020 at 15:20
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

My A7r4 has 3:2, 4:3, 19:9 and 1:1 aspect ratios
My A6400 has 3:2, 16:9 and 1:1

The camera saves what you have set and some use that to auto crop - that is the best of both worlds.


Cool, I shoot RAW/JPG and use the JPGs to triage my shots (outside of a library program) before I look at and edit a few RAWS - it is a work flow (work around) and having shot 1:1 all year something I've adapted to.
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