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    Posted: 16 September 2018 at 21:26
I just found myself a nice A7RII with about 3500 clicks on the counter, so barely out of the box .
By the end of the week, I hope to have it at home so I can have some fun with it next weekend .

The A7II is sold a while ago, and I expect the "R" to offer some improvement in a few areas.

I know its not a III, but I am happy anyway. My needs surely are far less than its capabilities . Going to bed now, with a really good feeling .
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Enjoy it, the A7r2 is a nice compromise between price, mpx and AF capabilities.
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You'll see the difference in AF for sure.
Obviously the higher resolution too
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Yes, I am very much looking forward to giving it a try.

Also, last week, Amazon.es had a 1-day deal on the Samyang 35/2.8, which arrived in meantime. Reviews for this lens look good. Should make for a really compact and good quality solution with the new camera. I think I will go for a walk in Antwerp with this small kit next weekend .
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Delivery tomorrow according to the tracking site. I will be getting home from work earlier than normal :-)

Looking forward to compare e.g. moon shots against the 600mm of the RX10-III and see what this 42Mp FF is capable of.
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nice, i went from the a7ii to the rii and its certainly a step up in pretty much every way.
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Originally posted by djfoxy djfoxy wrote:

You'll see the difference in AF for sure.
Obviously the higher resolution too


I didn't notice much difference in AF performance when using the area covered by PDAF.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2018 at 17:07
How did you use it? Might make a difference.

I never used the A7 II, but I have always understood the A7r2's AF was noticeable better. With everything else the same, the A7r2 at least beats the A7 II in AF coverage and eye-focus in AF-C.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paul07 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2018 at 15:08
Originally posted by lonewolf lonewolf wrote:

nice, i went from the a7ii to the rii and its certainly a step up in pretty much every way.


Yes, although I also noticed I will need to get faster SD cards .
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Post Options Post Options   Quote artuk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2018 at 18:01
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

How did you use it? Might make a difference.

I never used the A7 II, but I have always understood the A7r2's AF was noticeable better. With everything else the same, the A7r2 at least beats the A7 II in AF coverage and eye-focus in AF-C.


There appear to be some minor software differences such as AF eye tracking, and of course the sense has a larger PDAF area.

For general use, and particularly for focus speed and accuracy in lower light and low contrast, I didn't notice any significant difference. The wider PDAF area obviously has potential benefits.

I haven't used either model much for continuous focus and tracking . The A7ii was notably better than the original when using continuous focus, quicker and seemingly more reliable. For event work I would rate the original as of 3 shots, one excellent AF, one close enough and one miss. For the mark 2, of 3 shots 2 would be near enough excellent, and the third near to off. (This for stage event work exposures around f4 s/s 1/200 iso 1000-3200).

Other than that, functionally and operationally there didn't seem to be much difference between tje A7ii and R2 , except the A7r2 had much slower write and review times as the buffer speed and card write speeds are the same.

I also understood he focus of the R was much better, but in my use I can't say I've noticed it. Don't forget many comparisons were with the original R, whose focusing abilities weren't very good at all.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2018 at 18:11
Thank you. I noticed that reviews seldom refer to the A7 II when reviewing the A7r II - that was annoying.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paul07 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2018 at 19:43
Main difference for me so far is the massive volume of detail this sensor is providing, and better JPEG output.
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And I found a parcel at home today, sent by Jonas A-R, containing a mint FE85 !

Thanks Jonas ! Really perfect combo, still nicely compact and light, but producing outstanding images, and what a pleasure to have eye-AF
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Thank you. I noticed that reviews seldom refer to the A7 II when reviewing the A7r II - that was annoying.


I've met a professional photographer who uses E mount to photograph the UK cycling team. He told me since he doesn't need 42mp he uses the A7ii, as the focus was good enough when using tracking whilst hanging out of the window of a moving car following the cyclists. That is a greater challenge / test than I need for my work, and demonstrated to me that the A7II is more than capable in spite of front praise in reviews, simply because it isn't as sexy as 42mp and eye tracking.

My real world use for travel, low light tripod, available light portraiture and event work doesn't show any huge difference in focus abilities, although the R2 does have eye focus and a wider pdaf area.
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