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    Posted: 25 January 2022 at 16:08
It may well be me, but I recently read a pdf guide to the a7Riv settings from Mark Smith, a bird photographer should you wish to check out his amazing osprey youtube videos, and he mentions the importance of cleaning the sensor above the viewfinder.

No problem with that and in his illustrated demo he shows how to release the two locking clip on either side of the rubber cup! When did that appear? AFAIK all my previous Sony and Minolta cameras had simple slide off/on cups. I can remember a post a long time ago by @neilt3 lamenting how he lost the eyecup on his Dynax 9 on a beach and spent all afternoon trying to find it!

I did once buy a larger cup for my a7iii from Amazon but didn't get on with it, and that certainly just pulled up to remove.

I just wondered if all the latest a7/a9/a1 range have this feature now? I can see brute force and ignorance breaking a few if they have
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote neilt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2022 at 16:40
And the next eyecup that went on the Dynax 9 was glued on and is still there !

Regarding the eyecup on my bought used , but almost new , very low shutter count a7Riv , it lasted just a matter of days before it was list for ever .
No idea if it had locking tabs on it or not as it didn't stick around long enough to find out !

I've bought a few third party spares to replace it , one of which fell off again .
I knew it could only be a hundred yards back down the path I'd just walked , so found it easily .

I know why they've come off , the camera strap is put over my head into the opposite shoulder , with the camera by my side .
That way it's not putting pressure on the back of my neck , or likely to slide off my shoulder if hung of the same side .
It's as I put it pack after taking a shot the eyecup must get snagged on my jacket or something .

But in nearly thirty years of carrying SLRs and DSLRs like that , it's only ever the Dynax 9 and Sony a7Riv that's lost their eyecups .

I'd be interested in what others have to say on these "locking " eyecups ( and a link on a replacement one ) and if they really do stay on .

I would have thought the one on my a7Riv was the original Sony one , if so it didn't do a good job of locking on .
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Post Options Post Options   Quote neilt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2022 at 16:43
With all that said , I think I might have taken mine off to check if the Minolta angle finder fitted on , with all that available brute force and ample ignorance , it might me that broke it !

Maybe the locking tabs did work and I was just unaware of them ....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2022 at 16:53
Actually I hadn't earlier even noticed this nice improvement, on the older bodies it sure can be reasonably easy to accidentally loose the viewfinder eyecup!

Quick Internet search reveals that this feature seems to have been introduced with α7S III and then α1 (which I have) and α7 IV have got this feature. The easiest way to detect the presence of this feature is look where the eye sensor is located: the design with locks has the sensor below the viewfinder, while the older ones have the sensor above the viewfinder.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2022 at 17:04
Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Quick Internet search reveals that this feature seems to have been introduced with α7S III and then α1 (which I have) and α7 IV have got this feature.
Well, that is incorrect. My original A7r4 has it and I bought it on 27 October 2020, well before the A7s3.

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Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

The easiest way to detect the presence of this feature is look where the eye sensor is located: the design with locks has the sensor below the viewfinder, while the older ones have the sensor above the viewfinder.

Actually that isn't true. My a7Riv has the locks (which is why I started this thread) and the sensor is above the viewfinder.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Harm vb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2022 at 17:23
My A7iii has them little teeth as well....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2022 at 17:30
Now that I did properly looked again at my α7R III and IV and even these seem to have such locks, but you still seem to be able to take the eyecup out easily without touching those locks... α1's mechanism seem to more stiff at least that the eyecup does not slide off as easily. Don't know if that is just the fact that my α1 is only few months old or improved mechanism and the slightly different eyecup design...
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Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

With all that said , I think I might have taken mine off to check if the Minolta angle finder fitted on , with all that available brute force and ample ignorance , it might me that broke it !

Maybe the locking tabs did work and I was just unaware of them ....

And did your Minolta angle finder fit? Seriously Neil, I ask as I have the Seagull equivalent, and now I'm too scared to risk trying it

Edit: and please don't say "it did after I broke the lock tabs off"



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Harm vb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2022 at 17:57
And here the differences:



And they fit on the other camera... BTW, the cup from my A7Rii is a bit broken (the rubber is torn).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2022 at 18:11
I feel too lazy to take a picture, but the eyecup design on α1 is closer to the one on the left, but there the wedges on the bottom are far longer.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote neilt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2022 at 19:37
Originally posted by bonneville bonneville wrote:

Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

With all that said , I think I might have taken mine off to check if the Minolta angle finder fitted on , with all that available brute force and ample ignorance , it might me that broke it !

Maybe the locking tabs did work and I was just unaware of them ....

And did your Minolta angle finder fit? Seriously Neil, I ask as I have the Seagull equivalent, and now I'm too scared to risk trying it

Edit: and please don't say "it did after I broke the lock tabs off"



Well this thread has shown me a few things .

1 ; the replacement JJC eyepieces I got from Amazon are the same as the Sony locking type one . In fact if the picture shown in the above post is of a Sony one , the JJC ones tabs are slightly better.
JJC Soft https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CL4563W/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_7S752HHQT4GASB3EC98R?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

2 ; I know the Minolta angle finder is a perfect fit on the a7Riv eyepiece because I tried it on it before Christmas .

You might laugh , but I've worked out why the eyecup fell off so easily .
I'd snapped one of the lugs off taking it off before Christmas to check if the anglefinder fitted !

Oh well, at least it was a pack of two .

Edited by neilt3 - 25 January 2022 at 19:46
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