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    Posted: 28 July 2020 at 16:23
Just happened to tune in to YouTube and discovered news only 70 minutes old! The new a7Siii is launched, with a flippy screen.

Poor Canon with their new R5 and R6 didn't have the limelight for long

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But since Dyxum is predominantly a stills image forum and the a7S range leans toward video I don't suppose there will be much interest here
 



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While it may not be of much interest to stills photographers, what is interesting is the new components introduced on the A7Siii. The new EVF, BIONZ XR processor, card reader, menu layout and touchscreen LCD will all be seen on new Alpha and RX cameras.
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I am unsure I like the new menu. I never thought the Sony menu was a problem - I always could find what I was looking for. It seems the settings will continue under what you see, giving need to scroll further down. Where with the old menu, it was on the next page. Without having used the new menu, it looks a little like the Ricoh menu and I find that less easy to navigate then the Sony menu. But we have to see what happens.

BTW I am surprised by the way this is introduced. There is less hype, but I feel there is more coverage then for the Canon R5.
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Originally posted by bonneville bonneville wrote:

Just happened to tune in to YouTube and discovered news only 70 minutes old! The new a7Siii is launched, with a flippy screen.

Poor Canon with their new R5 and R6 didn't have the limelight for long

Sony Europe link

But since Dyxum is predominantly a stills image forum and the a7S range leans toward video I don't suppose there will be much interest here


Absolutely it is of great interest :-)
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It sounds like the live-view feed to the EVF is lower resolution. You only get the full resolution of EVF with image review. This seems to be the situation with the RIV too. That doesn't sound very useful to me.

The sensor resolution is fine even the 5MP APS-C crop is probably fine most of the time. The sensor does have fewer pixels than some monitors like the 5K iMac that I managed to kill recently. iPhone cameras are still stuck at 12 MP in 4:3 format.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 August 2020 at 16:25
I would love to have the low light capability and I think I could live with 12 MP. Only the price is a bit stiff for only using it for stills since you're also paying a lot for a great video features, however that's something I would probably never use.
But if you're into both video and stills it seems pretty good value for money.
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This is definitely a video camera. For the price, you can get much better cameras for still photography.
I am not video photographer, but I don't understand what is the advantage of having a video camera in the shape of still camera? I thought the shape of video camera is more suitable and comfortable for video...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2020 at 12:18
This is a bargain when you compare it to a true Cine camera. The Sony FS5 mark II will cost a lot more at 5700,- ($4750,-) and it only has a Super 35 (APS-C) sensor. The smaller form factor makes it easier to use for documentary style, it is less intimidating then a full cine set up. You can add a rig to add stuff and Sony even offers a XLR-K3M audio adapter kit that makes it almost a Cine camera. It is therefore more versatile.

There are not a lot of videographers around here, but if there are - they can maybe at some more benefits of the (smaller) A7-formfactor.

@Pegelli: if you sample down the 60mp of the A7r4 to 12mp there will be not that much difference in low-light capabilities. I think the benefits of the smaller pixelcount are more noticeable on video then on pictures.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2020 at 12:30
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:


@Pegelli: if you sample down the 60mp of the A7r4 to 12mp there will be not that much difference in low-light capabilities. I think the benefits of the smaller pixelcount are more noticeable on video then on pictures.
Might be true, we'll see what the DXO SNR 18% value is when comparing at "screen" size (which compensates for MP differences).

In such a comparison the curves for the A7S, A7Sii, A7Rii and A7Riv are all on top of each other. So the A7Siii needs to improve over the S and Sii in order to beat a downsampled Rii or Riv. We'll see
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