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Originally posted by TomV TomV wrote:

Eclipse,

Yours is the first review I have seen that has "loathe" as a descriptor for the EVF. I do not have such issues with mine. I suggest the OP read other reviews concerning the EVF before being swayed too much by yours alone.


I keep returning to my A700 and A850 in Sony and E-5 with Olympus for the same reason.
 



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I am a long time a100->a700->a900 user. I absolutely love the a900 viewfinder. For a long while I refused to look at the SLT cameras because I pooh-poohed the EVF. Lately I have been seriously considering buying an a99 II, and I think I am about ready. I am very excited about the focus peaking feature. I might start using manual focus for a lot of my pictures, just for the fun of it. I also want the significant improvement in low-light performance.

Any point waiting for Black Friday, cyber Monday, or post Christmas in terms of hoping for a sale? I've been watching the price of the a99 II for almost a year, and the price of a new camera has not budged from $3200 on B&H and Amazon.
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Originally posted by feinberj feinberj wrote:


Any point waiting for Black Friday, cyber Monday, or post Christmas in terms of hoping for a sale? I've been watching the price of the a99 II for almost a year, and the price of a new camera has not budged from $3200 on B&H and Amazon.


No point in waiting. The price will stay rock solid until a mark III is released; and then the price point wont budge much. I think it's fair to say the A99II is a niche luxury item for the a-mount stalwarts.
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by feinberj feinberj wrote:


Any point waiting for Black Friday, cyber Monday, or post Christmas in terms of hoping for a sale? I've been watching the price of the a99 II for almost a year, and the price of a new camera has not budged from $3200 on B&H and Amazon.


No point in waiting. The price will stay rock solid until a mark III is released; and then the price point wont budge much. I think it's fair to say the A99II is a niche luxury item for the a-mount stalwarts.


You really think there will be a Mk III? Much though I would love to see it I doubt that it will happen.

My track with Sony was A350 - A58 - A77 when I felt the need for full frame. An A900 popped up at a very good price so I bought it. I soon found myself yearning for an EVF, the A77 remained my go to camera for most purposes. Then a little-used A99ii appeared for an acceptable price and I bought it. I have used it almost exclusively since. I'm not sure I was totally wise - I really haven't made much use of its advantages over the A99, but I know I have as good a full-frame body as Sony is ever likely to produce for A-Mount

The downside is that I am now finding myself 'needing' a few better lenses.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5thElefant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 November 2019 at 13:39
Hard to imagine there will be a mk3.

I'd like to see the 3rd party lens adaptor makers come up with a better a2e adaptor for screw mount lenses. Something I can't see Sony doing either.
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by feinberj feinberj wrote:


Any point waiting for Black Friday, cyber Monday, or post Christmas in terms of hoping for a sale? I've been watching the price of the a99 II for almost a year, and the price of a new camera has not budged from $3200 on B&H and Amazon.


No point in waiting. The price will stay rock solid until a mark III is released; and then the price point wont budge much. I think it's fair to say the A99II is a niche luxury item for the a-mount stalwarts.


You really think there will be a Mk III? Much though I would love to see it I doubt that it will happen.

My track with Sony was A350 - A58 - A77 when I felt the need for full frame. An A900 popped up at a very good price so I bought it. I soon found myself yearning for an EVF, the A77 remained my go to camera for most purposes. Then a little-used A99ii appeared for an acceptable price and I bought it. I have used it almost exclusively since. I'm not sure I was totally wise - I really haven't made much use of its advantages over the A99, but I know I have as good a full-frame body as Sony is ever likely to produce for A-Mount

The downside is that I am now finding myself 'needing' a few better lenses.


To get the full benefit out of the 99mk2 (and the a77II IMO) you really need the mark II lenses and accessories. The total system upgrade I judged too much outlay for my needs. That said. I actually think there might be a a99mk3. I look to the a9 - a9II for inspiration. No tangible improvement (a firmware update would accomplish the improvement) but it would be "New and Improved". There is a market at the top end for cameras as there is for million $ sport cars that sit beside you in rush hour traffic. Not a large mass market, but a profitable one. As long as Sony makes sensors for Nikon cameras with mirror boxes there's hope.   
 



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I upgraded in order to get the best out of my collection of legacy glass. If I had wanted to spend a fortune on a state of the art picture making machine I would have changed system, probably to E mount. However, I find it hard to justify the outlay of that many £1,000s on my hobby. Sadly the A99ii is tempting me towards some modern glass - not what I intended at all.
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I upgraded in order to get the best out of my collection of legacy glass. If I had wanted to spend a fortune on a state of the art picture making machine I would have changed system, probably to E mount. However, I find it hard to justify the outlay of that many £1,000s on my hobby. Sadly the A99ii is tempting me towards some modern glass - not what I intended at all.


Yes. If I understand you right. you upgraded to get the most out of your legacy Minolta glass and found you were already getting all it could give. Now you need to upgrade the glass to get the most out of the camera. A great camera, by the way, that I wouldn't mind working with. If a mk3 comes out maybe I can get a good discount on a mk2 trade in.
I'm with you on "I find it hard to justify the outlay"; when I finally started looking at the real RAW files out of the CCD sensor of the a100 and realized I could have stopped my GAS there and then...

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I have no experience of the A99, it may well out-resolve most of my old FF zooms, the A99ii certainly seems to. However, it is showing me just how good some of Minolta's primes were.

Nevertheless, I get more out of the old zooms with the A99ii than the A900, purely because I find it an easier camera to use. I can also use it in lower light, when my eyesight simply wasn't good enough to use the OVF. I suspect the A99 would have done me almost as well, but I'm happy enough with my decision.
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

To get the full benefit out of the 99mk2 (and the a77II IMO) you really need the mark II lenses and accessories.

I fail to understand this statement. Can you please share your thoughts on this? What do you mean with full benefit?
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Resolution has been thrown into this discussion. The pro guys usually measure resolution as MTF. According to Brandon Dube (and others) the
System MTF = Lens MTF x Sensor MTF.

My summary of this: a camera with a better sensor gets more out of all lenses (unless they are really bad).
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Originally posted by amrep amrep wrote:

My summary of this: a camera with a better sensor gets more out of all lenses (unless they are really bad).

... Until you get into a limit. It's impossible to get the theoretical resolution from a sensor or lens. One will limit the other at some point.
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Originally posted by feinberj feinberj wrote:

I am a long time a100->a700->a900 user. I absolutely love the a900 viewfinder. For a long while I refused to look at the SLT cameras because I pooh-poohed the EVF. Lately I have been seriously considering buying an a99 II, and I think I am about ready. I am very excited about the focus peaking feature. I might start using manual focus for a lot of my pictures, just for the fun of it. I also want the significant improvement in low-light performance.

Any point waiting for Black Friday, cyber Monday, or post Christmas in terms of hoping for a sale? I've been watching the price of the a99 II for almost a year, and the price of a new camera has not budged from $3200 on B&H and Amazon.


EVF is totally worth it for the focus peaking alone. I use manual focus almost exclusively now. About the only time I use auto focus is for birds or people moving around.

I want to go to emount for full frame on one hand, but love my old Minolta glass. I'm wondering if a used a99 would suit me for now. Going to E SO expensive. I would have to buy a native lens or 2 to put on it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2019 at 22:34
Originally posted by vitor vitor wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

To get the full benefit out of the 99mk2 (and the a77II IMO) you really need the mark II lenses and accessories.

I fail to understand this statement. Can you please share your thoughts on this? What do you mean with full benefit?

I thought it was self explanatory.
I think an easy example is the SAL70300G and SAL70300G2 with say the A77 and A77II. The AF system was the great leap forward with the A77II, putting the SAL70300G on it gets the tracking and AF points but not the speed of the SAL70300G2 which has a faster SSM drive.

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