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    Posted: 17 November 2018 at 13:10
I'm so undecided... What I do know is that I am VERY heavily invested in A mount lenses (no turning back, I'm too old) and that I love my A900 (back-up camera) and A99 (everyday camera). I shoot between 8,000 and 10,000 pictures a year and seldom miss a shot with the A99. I shoot RAW, 25 meg, A priority - sometimes auto when undecided (too dark, spur of the moment, etc) - all with Sony's and Sigma's best A mount lenses.I have around 90,000 actuations on both cameras. The question is, "what am I missing out not using the A99ii ?" - should I get one now or wait for a hypothetical A99iii ? Or should I get an a7iii - or a9 - with lens adaptor ? HELP
 



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That's a question I am all too familiar with: Is there a future for A-mount? Does it make sense to keep my A-mount glass? Isn't it already late to jump ship and switch over to E-mount?

First things first: If both of your bodies have a shutter count that high I definitely would look for replacements. And there is only one replacement that works really well with all the A-mount glass: The A99ii.

If you sell both of your bodies that would leave the question what to use as a second body. My recommendation would be a Sony A7 or better at least the A7ii with the LA-EA3 adapter. There are at least some A-mount lenses that will work in a rather satisfactory way with that adapter (e.g. among the Zeiss ZA lenses the 24mm, the 24-70mm and the 50mm). Of course, at least some native E-mount lenses are smaller as these combos. But the A7 creates the opportunity to use a plethora of manual focus lenses (from the film days or even the most recent designs, like the Loxia lenses). Even if you do not own one single lens of that class it will definitely be alluring.
To have a second FF-body for native E-mount lenses will answer your question in a more thoroughgoing way - over time.
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Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

That's a question I am all too familiar with: Is there a future for A-mount?

That might be your question ... but this was the OP's question: "What am I missing out not using the A99ii ? Or should I get an a7iii - or a9 - with lens adaptor ?"

Parker: Are you looking for a list of differences among all the cameras you mentioned? Is it just idle wondering or are there actually things about your cameras (not your lenses) that you find disappointing?

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Recently purchased an a99ii, as an upgrade from an a900.
I have ignored the A99 as I believed it wasn't a big step that would justify the upgrade for me.
The A99II is a greater upgrade from A900 than it will be from the A99, so I will focus on the things that are common.
The AF is a greath improvement with the hybrid af and eye af. Somewhat reduced when using legacy lens, but greath with newer amount lenses.
The resolution is also something that at first won't be a killer, but as you take more photos it will make a huge difference. Specially on my portrait work, it as been a refreshing experience. While some might refer that you won't need it, the color gradients that come with a higher resolution sensor plays a big part on the better end results.
I also like the improved reduced noise at higher iso settings (more evident when comparing with the A900)
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Not sure if that helps you: if you seldomly miss a shot, perhaps the a99 is perfectly adapted to your needs. The a99ii will get you 42 Mpix, but you are the only one that can answer if you miss detail in your 24 Mpix photographs...
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Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

That's a question I am all too familiar with: Is there a future for A-mount?

That might be your question ... but this was the OP's question: "What am I missing out not using the A99ii ? Or should I get an a7iii - or a9 - with lens adaptor ?"

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Yes, you are right. The question paraphrasing the OP's concern (as I read it) is: Will my future be one in which I will use A-mount given the fact of my age and some unwillingness to turn around?

Sorry for being so elliptical!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 November 2018 at 19:02
If you're too old to turn back (your words ) I think the answer is clear and the only real option is another 2nd hand A99 or an A99ii.

Given the E-mount bodies you mention you seem to indicate 24 MP is enough for you.

E-mount bodies work best with E-mount lenses so if you switch working with A-mount lenses and an adapter (LA-EA3 or 4) is possible but usually not long term sustainable.

Maybe renting an A99ii from a reputable shop for a week might be the best option to test and see if the upgrades in AF, low light capability and 42 MP work for you. Alternatively you could see if there is a Dyxum member in your area with an A99ii and see if there is a chance to meet up and test yourself.

And the good thing is that you're not in a hurry, your A900 and A99 still work well for you so unless one breaks there's no need to decide now. Who knows, by the time one breaks the A99iii might be out (and/or the A99ii dropped considerably in price)

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Originally posted by Parker Parker wrote:

The question is, "what am I missing out not using the A99ii ?" - should I get one now or wait for a hypothetical A99iii ? Or should I get an a7iii - or a9 - with lens adaptor ? HELP

Just moved from A99 to A99ii which will serve me fine for the next couple of years. What you'll miss out is mainly the much better and faster AF, the better high ISO performance and the higher MP's (which helps me since I crop frequently). If you don't need those, a second hand low shutter count A99 will do a well (and save some money) and will avoid the switch to the new structure of the A9iii menu.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AutumnRose Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2018 at 01:49
I would get the A99II rather than starting with a new mount. It seems that most people that get an E mount camera to use with AF, are not satisfied for very long with adapted lenses and start purchasing E mount lenses. That's fine if you have the money and time for it. Like you, I'm at the age that it doesn't make sense for me to start over again (I started with Canon FD mount) so I'm staying with A mount. I'm sure there will be used A mount cameras, as well as lenses, available for the rest of my life.
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Originally posted by Parker Parker wrote:

should I get an a7iii - or a9 - with lens adaptor ? HELP


Looking at your situation, I'd certainly say sticking to the A-mount seems to be the best option. And if you're reasonably satisfied with the A99, I'd recommend waiting. 90K actuations is a good bit but it might run well till 150k or maybe even 200k so that'll give you enough time to wait for the A99iii.
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Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Originally posted by Parker Parker wrote:

The question is, "what am I missing out not using the A99ii ?" - should I get one now or wait for a hypothetical A99iii ? Or should I get an a7iii - or a9 - with lens adaptor ? HELP

Just moved from A99 to A99ii which will serve me fine for the next couple of years. What you'll miss out is mainly the much better and faster AF, the better high ISO performance and the higher MP's (which helps me since I crop frequently). If you don't need those, a second hand low shutter count A99 will do a well (and save some money) and will avoid the switch to the new structure of the A9iii menu.
This and the smaller body.
I do not find the menu system a problem, I do not know why Fred wants to avoid it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jozioau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2018 at 06:27
I have both the a99 and a99ii, and find I use the newer camera at least 90% of the time.
I stuck with the a99 for a while after buying the a99ii for the built in GPS on one of my trips, and also to keep the files sizes more manageable while backing everything up on those travels.
However, the a99ii is a quantum leap ahead in all sorts of ways, mostly well known - AF speed, dynamic range, high ISO performance, more compact and lighter (and especially so if like me you have the vertical grip permanently fitted - the a99 with its 3 batteries vs the a99ii with 2). I found that coupling the camera wth my smart phone using PlayMemories worked very reliably for GPS tagging, and the file sizes weren't a real problem in terms of backup storage on my computer by using an external HD.
The menus are different but I found them intuitive, and the toggle switch has a different touch that takes a little getting used to, but otherwise it's all extremely positive.
Who knows if there will ever be another generation a mount? I certainly wouldn't be holding off waiting for an a99iii.
Whatever, as an a-mount devotee with a big investment in a-mount glass, and having developed a "comfortable slipper" relationship with my a mount cameras, I'll be happily sticking with them.
I'd add my voice in encouraging the investment in an a99ii, and then enjoying it to its full capabilities, which are quite remarkable.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SnowFella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2018 at 06:42
I'm still on the fence here on upgrading my old A77 to the 99ii. I've got the ok from the CFO/SWMBO (Chief Financial Officer/She Who Must Be Obeyed) but still hesitate forking out that amount of money towards something that's just a hobby. Guess I'll have to make a decision sometime in the new year when the budget for it should clear.

If I could get a new A77ii here downunder it likely would be a better fit with all the birding that I do.
Other thoughts involve surrounding hardware/software needed after the upgrade. Already at the limits of my laptop's harddrive space, LR would need to be updated along with SD cards...currently only using 16Gb cards in the old A77 as 600 odd shots is more than enough for an outing.
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Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

If I could get a new A77ii here downunder it likely would be a better fit with all the birding that I do.


Apologies for going O/T. Johan, you could try to import from Phototronics NZ, who show the A77ii in their inventory. Graham.
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