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    Posted: 26 May 2019 at 13:05
Starting a new topic for responses and samples to a question asked by a new member that was posted in the firmware update topic.

Originally posted by Calliphorus Calliphorus wrote:

Anyone using the a99ii for bird photography? Looking for some feedback...
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I'm about to head out to work but the short answer from me is Yes, it does very well for birds with the right lens. AF tracking is great with older lenses and excellent with lenses that can take advantage of all 399 focus points. Loads of resolution to crop to your hearts content and still retain fine feather detail and high frames per second choices to fire off 2 second bursts. I cranked it up once or twice to 12 fps for birds in flight bursts and had no trouble at all keeping the subject where I wanted to in the frame.
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A99ii is no doubt well suited for birds.

But you need to question yourself if it's prudent to buy a-mount bodies at this point (it could be if you can pickup lenses cheaply)

I have been using A7RIII personally and have had good experience with it too shooting birds recently.

Edited by nandbytes - 26 May 2019 at 14:22
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2019 at 18:15
Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

But you need to question yourself if it's prudent to buy a-mount bodies at this point
It is if you have the lenses. It is a great camera.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

But you need to question yourself if it's prudent to buy a-mount bodies at this point
It is if you have the lenses. It is a great camera.


may be it is and may be it isn't. You'll get more for those lenses now than in future.
I am not questioning the greatness of the camera, just questioning the systems longevity in the market.

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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

But you need to question yourself if it's prudent to buy a-mount bodies at this point
It is if you have the lenses. It is a great camera.


+1

If I had the money.... would I buy an E-mount and the 400/2.8? Yes.

I don't have the money. I have good old Minolta long glass and the 70-400G. My A99ii and my glass are sufficient for good birding until I win a lottery or can't carry the stuff anymore.   

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Atom Ant Oz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2019 at 03:45
Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

But you need to question yourself if it's prudent to buy a-mount bodies at this point
It is if you have the lenses. It is a great camera.

may be it is and may be it isn't. You'll get more for those lenses now than in future.

Setting aside that I prefer the handling of the A99ii over the A7 series, if I wanted to swap my A-mount lenses for the E-mount equivalents it'd still take more than my very understanding partner would understand. Yes I' might get a bit more now than in two years time, but not enough for it to be material in my decision making.

If I were to be completely burgled again, then I would consider replacing my kit with E-mount, paid for by insurance, and partly because of the patience I would need to find to find new A-mount. Otherwise it would need more than just "the future is mirrorless" for me to give up the ergo and performance of the A99ii.

Edited by Atom Ant Oz - 11 June 2019 at 03:48
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2019 at 07:25
Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

But you need to question yourself if it's prudent to buy a-mount bodies at this point
It is if you have the lenses. It is a great camera.


may be it is and may be it isn't. You'll get more for those lenses now than in future.
I am not questioning the greatness of the camera, just questioning the systems longevity in the market.
if resale value was your aim, why Sony/Minolta to begin with? Nikon and Canon were much better. Also, when the 200-600 hits the streets, the prices of the 100-400 will go down most likely. Over time most lenses will go down in price, because of inflation or because a new lens is released.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2019 at 08:36
Originally posted by Atom Ant Oz Atom Ant Oz wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

[QUOTE=addy landzaat]
Setting aside that I prefer the handling of the A99ii over the A7 series, if I wanted to swap my A-mount lenses for the E-mount equivalents it'd still take more than my very understanding partner would understand. Yes I' might get a bit more now than in two years time, but not enough for it to be material in my decision making.

If I were to be completely burgled again, then I would consider replacing my kit with E-mount, paid for by insurance, and partly because of the patience I would need to find to find new A-mount. Otherwise it would need more than just "the future is mirrorless" for me to give up the ergo and performance of the A99ii.


I have recently come to dislike the handling of A7RIII, so I am not going stick up for it but just say is not as bad as people make it out to be but its not great either.

In terms of performance not sure what you'd give up if anything I'd say you gain performance.

Of course you have a lot of lenses it may make sense to keep to a-mount but OP had no mentioned any such pre-conditions.

[QUOTE=addy landzaat] if resale value was your aim, why Sony/Minolta to begin with? Nikon and Canon were much better. Also, when the 200-600 hits the streets, the prices of the 100-400 will go down most likely. Over time most lenses will go down in price, because of inflation or because a new lens is released.


For few reasons:
- I am an EVF fanboi and as such DSLRs are inconvenient to put it light (don't want to start an EVF vs. OVF religion war!)
- I didn't shoot minolta DSLRs, I shot Sony DSLT. When I did buy into the system resale value wasn't so bad and I haven't made any serious loses so all in all it worked out fine. I just guessed the tipping point when A7(R)II came out with IBIS plus better adapter support for EA3 and I wasn't wrong about it.
- Canon EF lenses' resale value sucks. It is easy to buy and sell them but as far as resale value goes they don't hold them. Comparatively Sony gear holds its value better thus meaning less or no loss when I buy and sell.

Over time prices of lenses do go down but Sony lenses hold value fairly well at leats for now. I don't keep lenses very long so longer term decline does not effect so much and if I did keep a lens long enough for it to have lost any noticeable value then its worth since I have actually used it that long!
As for 100-400mm in specific, I am thinking of selling it but I am not sure yet. 100-400 is GM and 200-600mm is G. 100-400mm is mighty sharp and I can always shoot wide open. Its also smaller. I don't think it'll go down in value greatly but it'll reduce for sure. Probably won't affect me a huge lot though.
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