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Someone has put a Cyclopital3d on eBay for nearly 1000 AUD (£500+). Then, when you buy it, you have to find 2x screw-in lenses Ö See here

Thereís an overview of the device at https://la3dclub.com/the-cyclopital-3d-fujifilm-w3-3d-camera-auxiliary-lens-adapter-ala/. The new price was about $250 dollars a decade ago, which is a much better proposition!
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OMG! esp. the 'buy now' part. new price was $ 249 to be precise (and I paid it. + as said, the little lenses found on Amazon), pricey anyway.
(I know how to create 3D models, 3D 'prop' in this case, but we would need exact measurements. scanning mine and finding a 3D printer c/b an option? much easier said than done? ;) not a clue what the costs would be. perhaps we could make a fortune selling them on ebay? for + + + and there might be an option to contact Cyclopital through FB?).

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fingers crossed, Brian! hope you'll vent all about it, the moment you've tried it out.
TY Howard! dabbled with StereoMaker and the like more than a decade ago. never presented results though.
really like that phone of yours, TY! (is that a range?? ).
hope you'll both have a great time in beautiful Wales!
(btw- crashing waves are awesome in 3D! ;) risky though, trick is to keep the camera dry, unfortunally all of my cameras are allergic to seawater. ).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2022 at 11:05
Thanks, Ine, and yes thatís an Rayburn at the end of the kitchen in the cottage weíre renting.

I think my solution to wide angle stereo photography is to use paired APS-C cameras rather than adapt the W3. I have 16mm on both cameras, and can go wider with adapters for those lenses.

And as for adding flash, the optical S1 triggering of a flash is easy (I suspect cyclopital3d did that) and flash and camera on a bracket is an easy fix.



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PS?
learned here that Cyclopital has a name. goes by the name of Ken Burgess.
would he be able to provide us with the contents of his outlet? ;) his recipes? custom made stuff or .....?
IF welcome, that is.

any Sherlocks in da house? managed to find his pic:
http://www.stereoscopic.org/2010/conference.html
a man with long goldie locks.
(they all came to the party! Fujifilm, Sony, ..... ).
member of this forum, is the forum still alive? ;)

and found more ancient stuff- something about the Fuji predecessor + an overload of -interesting?- links.
for what it's worth?

PPS? seeing it now, very impressive!!   

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Originally posted by bonneville bonneville wrote:

Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

Brian, the Godox needs to be in Manual not Slave mode. The third button at the bottom is now labelled S1/S2 - press that to select one or the other. I think S1 is a straightforward trigger, S2 allows for a double flash for red eye reduction, I think.

Thanks Howard, I shall give it another go. Enjoy your time in Wales

As a follow-up to this little saga, and after a very helpful WhatsApp from Howard it worked. However, it has opened up a whole new line of enquiry so to speak:

1. using just one flash on the pair of RX100iii cameras it did fire the Godox but the two images are lit very differently. The camera with the flash produced a very bright scene, as to be expected, but the other camera's scene is considerably darker.

2. Using both camera flashes is better, but still significantly uneven. (Note: quick and dirty shots in the study with the Godox unit well seperated and not aimed at the subject).

My next plan is to employ a little hack first mooted by Gary Friedman and an article in Photoworld magazine where he modified a Sony HVL-F20AM by fitting a small strip of exposed 35mm film to the Tele panel that rolls in front of the flash. By turning the Tele know to position the film in from of the flash it doesn't light the scene but is seen by the remote flash. It worked perfectly and I still have mine, modified, but sadly these days, rarely used.

I shall try covering the RX100 flash by taping a bit of film to see if I can produce the same result.


Ine, not an overload of links at all but some really interesting reading. I'm beginning to see how very popular stereo photography is around the world, albeit not in Dyxum unfortunately.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote angora Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2022 at 14:26
Originally posted by bonneville bonneville wrote:

Ine, not an overload of links at all but some really interesting reading. I'm beginning to see how very popular stereo photography is around the world, albeit not in Dyxum unfortunately.

hi Brian during the times it was popular, it was obv. really REALLY popular. also my father, anno 1928, saw 3D movies at the movie theatre as a youngster. (scary stuff, trains running you over and such). and look at the 2010 link in my previous post, it was HUGE and they were ALL there... Sony, Disney, .......?
but the die-hards have obv. always been around; same names, over and over ..... (look at the design of many of the websites, ancient!). I for one, was over the moon with the latest revival, as MANY ! digi 3D cameras were released.

about Dyxum- prior to that, when I entered the 3D paradigm, early 2006, the most popular digi cameras to synchronize (;)) were SONY'S! by far!!
(so I also bought 2 simular ones 2nd hand -read: another E 500, ouch-, but then the Fujifilms appeared, yayyy ).

just noticed the forum I mentioned isn't dead, but perhaps its members are? ;)
last post dates from april 20. and apparently they also have equipement sale/wanted threads.

in 2006 I joined the dutch stereo club, very very active. and really informative. they come up with the weirdest things. in the UK there are 2 national ones?


did I ever tell you about my quirkiest lens of all?
http://www.loreo.com/pages/products/loreo_3dcap.html
bought for the Minolta 8000i
https://www.3dstereo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=LSL-MIN
a different era, prehistory.

and there is more to be found.
http://www.3dstereo.com/viewmaster/cam-r28ek.html
etc.?

I think one has to experience a good 3D pic to become 'converted'?

 



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I suspect, Brian, that having a pair of cameras doubles the synchronisation problems. The cameras donít have to be very far out for one not to have its shutter open when the otherís flash has fired. And one flash below may illuminate the scene very differently from the flash above.

Iíll give it a go when I get back to my APS-C gear.

As for online 3D communities, some migrated to groups.io, the most active being Photo-3D at https://photo-3d.groups.io/g/main/topics. The UK Stereoscopic Society also uses a group, but usage is low.
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So I went for a stroll around the cathedral here in St Davids with the W3 and flash combo. In broad daylight the camera flash didnít trigger the Godox flash every time, but in this shot the flowers in the foreground Iím pretty sure weíre brightened by the flash.


Bluebells and pinkbells | Fuji W3 with Godox flash
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I wonder if this sticks out enough from the window, Ine?


Woods near Solva | Fuji W3
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My eBay purchase arrived this morning, while I was on the golf course, so I didn't get to open it until an hour or so ago. My new 3D V1 realviewer was boxed and seems totally as new. The remote still had its battery protective tab intact and the monitor still had a protective clear sheet stuck to it.

Fired it up and I even had to set time and date. I don't think it has ever been used although the CD-ROM and user manual were missing. Don't need the software and Google sourced a pdf in seconds.

Seems to work perfectly and the 3D effect is impressive, identical to the W3 camera screen, but of course larger.

There are a host of features I have yet to explore, such as connecting direct to a computer to load images but for the moment I have just displayed MPO files on an SD card. Very pleased with my latest 3D addition.
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Thanks a lot, Brian. I hope I get to see it some day!
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Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

I wonder if this sticks out enough from the window, Ine?


Woods near Solva | Fuji W3

hi Howard! LOVE it! TYSM!
(no eyes poked out yet. ;)).

CONGRATS Brian! really happy for you! is it what you expected it to be?
(no downsides?).

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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

CONGRATS Brian! really happy for you! is it what you expected it to be?
(no downsides?).

Thanks Ine. I'm certainly not disappointed although I didn't have any expectations as I've not seen one before so wasn't sure what to expect. It does seem that the image subject has a strong bearing on how effective the 3D is and some of my earlier MPO files work okay but others lack specific depth and is more noticable. It also depends on how one looks at the screen. Directly in front is not quite as effective as very slightly to one side or the other. Literally a fractional movement of the head makes a difference.

At the end of the day it is just a bit of fun, and does mean that my wife can enjoy my 3D pictures a bit more as she can't freeview and says the OWL makes her feel sick! (I am usually pleased if my photos provoke some reaction although throwing up isn't one of them )

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I found this interesting project involving making a stereo camera with a pair of Sony QX series cameras, https://hackaday.com/2022/04/30/clever-stereo-camera-uses-sony-wireless-camera-modules/.
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