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Well, the Landscape workshop yesterday was probably my best ever day with a camera. Excellent day which, when I have opened, selected and processed some of the images I'll post separately.

However, this morning I have been waylaid as returning from the dog walk the postie had delivered my package from Dr T    . Had to open it and set it up right away and I am very happy. Mainly because it works as promised and is the perfect, cheap(ish) digital option as an alternative to the Fuji W3 3D.

Couple of phone snaps to show it plus a very quick 3D card from the spare bedroom where we are marooned for the day while the "Tile Doctor" cleans and seals the travertine tiles throughout our bunglehouse.







Shutters appear to fire simultaneously and there is no need to flip the left image vertically, as I had expected as the camera recorded the image as you can see on the viewscreen, the right way up! The lead connecting the two cameras is not as shown in my earlier post of Dr T's own rig but in effect two leads each with a multi plug at one end and one with a male and the other female speaker type jack. Now I want to try and figure out a way of incorporating my RX100 VCT-SGR1 grip/tripod that has its own multi plug allowing for zooming, focussing and firing the shutter. Is there such a thing as a Multi-plug lead with a female multi-socket I wonder?


Edit. After a couple hours and trying different attachments for the hand grip and tripod the female screw insert in the bottom of the bracket has dropped out. Although it was screwed in, the 3D printed plastic does not seem strong enough for the outer screw thread to hold. IOW it has stripped itself and not only turns within its hole but can be drawn out easily.

This gives me no confidence in risking the bracket falling off the hand grip, cameras and all, so it is now in my garage with a clamp holding it tightly to the hand grip while the copious application of superglue dries! That does mean the hand grip will become a permanent attachment but that's fine. Fingers crossed superglue sticks to whatever 3D printer stuff is made of.

Edit: shooting grip should read VCT-SGR1



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 April 2022 at 23:25
I'm very pleased to see your new grip/bracket/z-mount arrive OK, and to see a working stereo set up. That first result is fine.

I can't quite visualise what has gone wrong, but if you're happy with the superglue fix, great.

That's hugely more portable than my set up (especially the A7s!).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2022 at 00:21
Inspired by Brian's twin RX100 rig I tried a smaller setup today - an A5000 twinned with a DSC-HX90.


Light and shadow

Both cameras set to the same ISO, aperture, focal length (24mm equivalent), and aspect ratio (3:2). The VMC-MM2 cable connected the cameras and provided synchronous focus and shutter firing.
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At last, an opportunity to take the RX100iii Z-bar kit for a spin yesterday. Gave me an opportunity to break out my Swytch converted e-bike and rode to a local village, Irnham. Stopped outside the village lending library (re-purposed telephone box) and took a brief stroll through the church grounds looking for suitable 3D scenes. The gravestones provided some depth in #5 particularly.

I'm delighted with how well the rig performs, with dual focussing and instantaneous shutter action. Holding the grip with the left hand and supporting the rig with the right allowed for easy access to controls and the shutter button. It travelled well in the pannier, cosy in a bubblewrap bag. Here are a small selection of the results, compiled in Stereo PhotoMaker all at 24mm (equivalent) and various shutter speeds with both cameras set to P mode:

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Post Options Post Options   Quote bonneville Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 April 2022 at 18:24
Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

Inspired by Brian's twin RX100 rig I tried a smaller setup today - an A5000 twinned with a DSC-HX90.
Both cameras set to the same ISO, aperture, focal length (24mm equivalent), and aspect ratio (3:2). The VMC-MM2 cable connected the cameras and provided synchronous focus and shutter firing.

Appears to work perfectly Howard. How were the cameras “joined”? On a straight bar as in your A5000 connected to a QX1 shown on the previous page?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 April 2022 at 20:14
That's a good working setup, Brian, and it should enable you to secure good stereos where the W3 fears to tread. I like the way the street recedes in no 2, and the phone box, mono or stereo, deserves to go in the telephone box thread!

I used the same horrizontal bar as before



though arguably I had the cameras the wrong way round ... the cable only just made it over the top of the cameras.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bonneville Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 April 2022 at 16:33
Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

though arguably I had the cameras the wrong way round ... the cable only just made it over the top of the cameras.

From my very limited time using my rig I have found the best method for me is to hold the vertical grip in the left hand and my right operates the camera on the right as I look at them from behind. IGWS that I am right handed so if I was using your setup Howard I would place the dominant camera in my right hand. (Does that make any sense? )
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 April 2022 at 23:30
Yes, I would use the grip that way, but here I reversed the cameras, thinking I would get the lenses closer together.

Next time it will be back to the A5000/QX1 combo. The QX1 has no screen, unless I connect it to a phone, and I can focus on the A5000 as being the senior partner in the pairing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bonneville Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2022 at 17:14
Took the Fuji W3 3D camera on the morning dog walk in Twyford Woods again to keep my hand in in using the delightful little camera. None of these images are worthy of comment for their artistic value but they do offer various levels of depth for the 3D effect, should you be reading this with little experience of stereoscopic photography. It is also good prctice for my workflow from MPO files to Dyxum post

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There is a kind of magic to seeing a 3D simulated image and Howard and me would love to recruit some more interest in this thread. Sony A and E mount cameras can certainly be used, with a bit of jiggery pokery so it needn't be regarded as irrelevant.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 April 2022 at 23:32
The Fuji W3 comes with a puny little on-board flash and no flash shoe. My Godox flashes have an optical flash 'slave' mode, S1. (Set the flash to manual, press the Slave button to select S1, and adjust the flash output power - perhaps to 1/16 for a living room, bouncing off the ceiling.

The flash on the W3 will trigger the Godox



Not a stylish scene, but it does show this can work, and a simple flash bracket arrangement might work very effectively.



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LOVE your endeavors ...evolved into sheer rocket science!!
(not too easy to wrap my alpha brain around ).

Howard_S wrote: < I like the W3 as a pocket camera though it is quite limited - the JPGs sometimes disappoint and the lens isn't very wide. >

don't you love the enchanting sounds it makes? ;)
other people also thought it wasn't wide enough and therefore Cyclopital 3D decided to create a lens adapter.
unfortunally the link I posted on page 1 no longer works, Cyclopital seems to have vanished.
I ordered one, it wasn't cheap ($ 249? -off the top of my head- + p&p) and recall vaguely it also needed 2 small 'lenses' (NOT included: + approx. E 60 @ Amazon Germany). but it works.
like a charm. Cyclopital may have vanished, but 3D printers have made an appearance since... and this auxiliary lens adapter is basically nothing but a (n expensive) plasticy holder - + hot shoe- ). ?


found some jpeg files (10+ years old), Fujifilm W3









dark place, shot against the light- slightly different dyn. range than A99. ;)
but I can promise you that NOTHING ! ! beats a swarm of dung flies in 3D ! ! !


about the art of watching... (apart from a 3D LG 650S tv, able to display MPO files in 3D -just 42" here-), I happen to have a lenticular photo frame.
since it's a brilliant thing, I was wondering if you (Howard, Brian) wouldn't like to have 1 of those, but prices are still not nice.
(mine set me back E 365, should you care to know. people at Fujifilm NL turned the place upside down to find the very last one they had in stock. long ago).
no glasses needed. but designed for predecessor W1 and therefore unable to display -3D- videos. great thing though, very Harry Potter-ish.     

also wondering if you ever considered printing lenticular pics.
( lenticular software + lenticular sheets).
https://www.imagiam.com/lenticular-software/what-is-lenticular-printing
http://www.3dphoto.net/forum/index.php?topic=9122.0

I have, but since the hype seems to be over, the software outdated?, wondering if it will run under modern OS?

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Many thanks for your post Ine. I had completely forgotten about the Fuji 3D digital viewer and when I first bought the W3 camera I searched for one to no avail. But from your post link I looked at the announcement when it was first released and from there had a look on ebay UK, just on speck so to speak (or should that be lenticular spec ), and there it was. Open box but hardly used and complete so I jumped on it for the sum of £175 incl postage from UK.

So Thank You for that prompt. The little camera screen is a work of art and I'm hoping the 8" photo frame will be as good, if not better.

I have amassed all of Brian May's stereo photo related books and the last was The Dawn of 3D, which is a brilliant historical journey from the very beginnings. I am so amazed that it falls in and out of favour with each generation. Thank heaven for Dr May's vision sixty years ago and his slavish dedication to hauling a stereo 35mm film camera with him all over the world throughout his career with Queen.

I love stereoscopic photography.

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Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

The Fuji W3 comes with a puny little on-board flash and no flash shoe. My Godox flashes have an optical flash 'slave' mode, S1. (Set the flash to manual, press the Slave button to select S1, and adjust the flash output power - perhaps to 1/16 for a living room, bouncing off the ceiling.

The flash on the W3 will trigger the Godox

Not a stylish scene, but it does show this can work, and a simple flash bracket arrangement might work very effectively.


As I also use Godox flashes (V1 and 2 x V860ii) I'll have to give this a try. Your photo works well free viewed Howard, other than the contents of the two glasses that seem to confuse the brain a bit! Was there any movement to make the liquid surfaces swirl?

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@Brian- OMG hope you won't regret it?! ;) I FOR ONE Love it!! think it's brilliant to be able to watch pics directly in 3D!
(bummer! though, afaik only able to watch W3 videos on the camera screen).
but confused- 1st of all that your viewer didn't show up when I searched e-bay? but also saw what (link) I posted and there seems to be a successor; a V3??
but only V1 showed up on e-bay, and V1 here as well. (but should you ever regret it, they are obv. worth a lot nowadays :)).
and it's also great way to show off your pics! no glasses, no fuss.
that's how my frame got damaged at a corner, a friend knocked it off a table, TYVM. ;)

in and out (favour)- a week ago I was at MediaMarkt, a massive store, anything electronic, and asked if they still sold 3D tv's. (guess? ).
THX for the link! very interesting!
do you know what Catawiki is? started out as a dutch auction site, mainly for collectors. they still have weekly? stereo/3D auctions.
https://www.catawiki.com/en/ (prices + 9% + shipping costs).

lastly... meant what I said about dung flies! < hint? hint > def. a next level...
did you ever try to get past the 'stereo frame'? to have someone / something pointing your direction ... like a rake, bottle, arm, knife, ...?
(that will poke your eye out in 3D). it is so cool to have a horse, sticking its head right through the tv screen, about a meter into your living room.
I love stereo as well, but this is what I love most. (thin line though, bit tricky). did you ever try phantograms? (basically the same).

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