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    Posted: 23 June 2021 at 01:53
I've packaged up my a77ii and Sony 16-50/2.8 SSM. They've been sold.
This means I now, for the first time in years, have no A-mount cameras. Gulp.

The shift to the E-mount is done. Just the 70-200/2.8 G and 135mm STF remain. But these have been repurposed as E-mount lenses with the LA-EA3.
a7riii, a9- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 G; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Tamron 150-500 f5-6.7; Sony SAL 135/2.8 STF
 



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Just don't make my mistake of buying some again. Selling requires patience.
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Just don't make my mistake of buying some again. Selling requires patience.


It's weird, there's a Minolta 400/4.5G for sale here in NZ- a lens for years and years I wanted- and now its available I'm not tempted.

Tbh, there's not much I'm tempted with in the E-mount either.

But I will take your advice anytime I do get tempted
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I have a feeling I'll get there. I'm heavily tied into A-mount. E is for expensive! I've hung back so long that I'm many years behind, at least on the technological aspects.
But my gear is more than good enough for my abilities.

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My Fathers not long done the same for his retirement, sold/selling the A's and shifted to an A7iii and a nice set of 3 2.8 Tamron's

He's enjoying the shift to full frame from the a580/a77ii combo he had.

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Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

I have a feeling I'll get there. I'm heavily tied into A-mount. E is for expensive! I've hung back so long that I'm many years behind, at least on the technological aspects


Yeah, unfortunately without a big pool of used-lenses around, a lot of the E-mount stuff can be pricey.

On the other hand the sheer choice of lenses is remarkable. And the number of 3rd party manufacturers that have jumped on board is so different to when I got into the A-mount DSLRs (back with the a100).

So the tradeoffs when you buy a lens are reduced- you're more likely to find exactly what you want. You might have noticed for instance, I'm quite fond of the Zeiss Loxias...
a7riii, a9- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 G; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Tamron 150-500 f5-6.7; Sony SAL 135/2.8 STF
 



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Originally posted by bieomax bieomax wrote:

My Fathers not long done the same for his retirement, sold/selling the A's and shifted to an A7iii and a nice set of 3 2.8 Tamron's

He's enjoying the shift to full frame from the a580/a77ii combo he had.



I get that. While the a77ii was good, its sensor, AF-system etc isn't on par with the 3rd generation A7 cameras and more advanced FF E-mount options.

Tamron makes a good set of 2.8 zooms and primes for the cameras now too- light, responsive and excellent image quality
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Post Options Post Options   Quote skm.sa100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 June 2021 at 01:04
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:


On the other hand the sheer choice of lenses is remarkable. And the number of 3rd party manufacturers that have jumped on board is so different to when I got into the A-mount DSLRs (back with the a100).



Yes, and a whole lot of MF lenses with glassless adapters. They've appreciated in cost a whole lot but are still a good buy for someone who knows what they're looking for.

A-mount is passé. The sheer engineering that's going into a small box that can into in a palm is amazing. The A1 has specs that would seem fantastic just a few years ago. Getting rid of the mechanical components no longer needed like the mirror, the pentaprism, electronic curtain etc. have advanced capabilities enormously.

A few years back I used to think the A-mount would be good enough (I'm pushing fifty) but I'll probably need to get into E with the LA-EA5 sooner or later. We'll see.
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Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

I'm heavily tied into A-mount. E is for expensive!


A-mount is way more expensive. It is not even close. E is for economical.

SEL20F18G $800
SAL20F28 $749

That old A-mount lens is so much worse than the $250 Tamron 20mm F2.8. Only $50 less than the 20 G. Lol! Sony keeps electronic Lens Compensation for that old 1986 lens in the firmware of A1/A7/A9 camera bodies.

SEL35F14GM $1400
SAL35F14G $1500

I haven't tried any of these. But I am confident that the GM is not playing in the same class as the old G at all. The $200 35 F2.8's are so much better than the Minolta AF 35 F2 or the MD 35 F1.8.

I am sure I could keep this up. A-mount users may not realize how much more they get for the same amount when switching. Fine.

A-mount gear is largely overvalued used, but some of it might go up more. Some might get even cheaper. I missed the low point for 100 F2's.

The LA-EA5 was an irrational goodwill gesture to A-mount users.

Edited by QuietOC - 24 June 2021 at 04:14
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Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

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A few years back I used to think the A-mount would be good enough (I'm pushing fifty) but I'll probably need to get into E with the LA-EA5 sooner or later. We'll see.


As a sort-of-landscape/seascape photographer I do like having the smaller kit I can get in my pack in the E-mount. And my experience with E-mount wide-angle lenses are they are better than any of the A-mount lenses I tried. (Maybe something to do with the shorter flange distance?).

I'm not sure the E-mount is necessarily getting me images I couldn't get in the A-mount, but I am finding it easier to get the shots I want, and the success rate is also much higher.

My transition was sort of with the a7R and LA-EA4 with A-mount lenses, to the a7Riii and native E-mount lenses. The a7R was really just used as a digital back. The a7Riii became a camera that could 'do it all'.




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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

I'm heavily tied into A-mount. E is for expensive!


A-mount is way more expensive. It is not even close. E is for economical.

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I think what made E-mount 'cheaper' was I knew exactly what I wanted in a lens (likely a result of much more experience now) and the lens I bought, could do what I wanted. Often in the A-mount I had to experiment with a few lenses, work out the trade-offs, and then settle on what to buy. Sometimes that meant I had to buy two lenses as neither one covered the shooting needs I had properly.

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Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:


The shift to the E-mount is done. Just the 70-200/2.8 G and 135mm STF remain. But these have been repurposed as E-mount lenses with the LA-EA3.


At least in the UK you could sell these two lenses and grab used 100STF GM and tamron 70-180mm for not much more.
Might be worth it to go all native and have AF with your STF lens. Plus the STF effect is stronger in the new lens.
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

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At least in the UK you could sell these two lenses and grab used 100STF GM and tamron 70-180mm for not much more.
Might be worth it to go all native and have AF with your STF lens. Plus the STF effect is stronger in the new lens.


Here I'd have to accept such low prices for these lenses there'd still be a large price gap to make up. There's G lenses offered up here at heavy discounts and nobody has expressed an interest in them in months.
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