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The A1 + LA-EA5 is definitely the best transitional setup for FF A-mount users. The only problem is the price.
 



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Originally posted by MisterAndrew MisterAndrew wrote:

The A1 + LA-EA5 is definitely the best transitional setup for FF A-mount users. The only problem is the price.


Transition to what? E-mount? Then you'd stop being a FF A-mount user.
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Originally posted by mike77 mike77 wrote:

Originally posted by MisterAndrew MisterAndrew wrote:

The A1 + LA-EA5 is definitely the best transitional setup for FF A-mount users. The only problem is the price.


Transition to what? E-mount? Then you'd stop being a FF A-mount user.


If you view the LA-EA5 as a permanent fixture - and only use A-mount glass I'd say you were still an A-mount user. It looks to me like a decent upgrade from the A99ii - if it wasn't for the price.

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Originally posted by macronut macronut wrote:

I didnít say I expected them to know exactly where I could buy one. I also didnít say Sony has access to dealer inventory. Iím not stupid. Give me some credit and read between the lines a little. The message is that I was trying to get some form of direction or some amount of information that would help, to which I got absolutely none.


Sorry if I upset you by not second guessing what your trying to say in your rant about how you feel you were poorly treated by the Sony assistant .
I can only respond to what you actually wrote .
I do agree that it's disappointing that they couldn't tell you where they have sent their cameras , but not that they don't know the stock holding of third party retailers .

Originally posted by macronut macronut wrote:

And Iíll say this. When I contacted Sigma about a discontinued lens, the guy pointed me directly to the most likely source, which was a dealer that bought the last three lenses they had. One phone call later and I owned the lens. So it would be nice if youíd back pedal abit from your slightly condescending post. I asked Sony for the same info, but she said she could not access that info. Okay, fine. But somebody can access it. Go the extra mile.


Relatively speaking , Sigma is a tiny firm compared to Sony .
Likewise their product range is much smaller and far less varied , so you would expect their assistants to have better knowledge . Lets face it , with 99.9%+ of their callers questions being about a lens , somethings gone badly wrong with their training if they have to ask "What's a lens ?" !
( They might say "A-mount ? What do you mean A-mount , you need to be specific , please , what mount is your camera ? Is that a Nikon or a television ? " )

Originally posted by macronut macronut wrote:

Furthermore you seem to suggest Iíve been asleep at the wheel because I never bought this camera. No. I didnít buy it because I didnít want it at the time.   If you understand my post correctly, I only wanted the A99II if it proved to be the pinnacle of A-mount. Within days of the revelation (dropped from Sony website) I acted. Itís frustrating that Sony did not give any blatant warning that the camera would no longer be available. My plan all along was to buy the best A-mount camera when the line was discontinued. I should have been able to accomplish that.


The writings been on the wall long enough since E-mount took off ten or so years ago .
And nothing at all for what ? four years ?
The LA-EA5 is the last of A-mount , a general widespread opinion .

Their hardly going to make an announcement a year or two in advance that "we're going to drop A-mount like a hot potato , so it's a dead end system , buy it quick !"
If they did that , they'd never shift the rest of their stock .

Have Nikon or Canon announced when they'll drop their DSLR's in favour of their mirrorless cameras ?
No , and their not likely too . Would you ?
Things just gradually get ignored until they disappear altogether .

And on that , good night , and good luck with your search .




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Post Options Post Options   Quote macronut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2021 at 02:46
Well Karen, excuse me for expecting employees to do more than show up to work and get paid. You have yourself a swell night also.
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Originally posted by macronut macronut wrote:

excuse me for expecting employees to do more than show up to work and get paid. You have yourself a swell night also.
If you expect them to do more, you should pay them more... Like they say, if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys

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Well, macronut, I sympathise with the responses you got from some sales assistants but there is huge variation in skills and attitude, and A-mount is no longer a core sales product, even for Sony, is it?
Without wishing to be at all rude, it does seem rather quixotic to be so upset that your favoured camera is now unavailable when you deliberately avoided buying it for several years in the hope that something better might come along. I understand the wish to get 'the last one' but you rarely know it will be the last one until they don't replace it!
After all, you could have bought one when it had been out for a few years, intending to trade it in when a new one came out. Maybe you didn't want to spend the money then (I wouldn't have done either), but you pays your money (or don't) and you takes your choice ...
You can look out for a s/h one in pristine condition, I guess. Personally I thought the A99II was too big, too expensive, and too complex for me, and the A7 range with LA-EAx is a better fit for my tastes and needs, but it is clearly not as good as the A99ii for focussing, given the number of things which don't work fully adapted.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote gigo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2021 at 16:22
I bought 900,99,99II and all A-Mount full frame cameras. Half of it is a joke, but "to buy and support A-Mount".

When I had the 7RIII and 99II, deciding which camera to take for shooting was a bit of a headache.

The turning point was the release of the A9. With the 7RIV boosting further and replacing the main lens with an E-Mount, the 99II often slept in a moisture-proof cabinet, but it wasn't out of play yet.

The AF performance of the LA-EA4 is not as good as the 99II, so I needed the 99II to use a lens that cannot be replaced by an E-Mount such as the 200F4G macro.

However, I was a little disappointed that the 200F4G macros were used less frequently because I had to use the 99II.

With the introduction of LA-EA5 and combination with 7RIV, 99II is completely in storage.

And I sold 9 and 7RIV and 99 II to get the ILCE-1, which I think was the best decision in the last decade.

By eliminating TLM, the image quality has improved literally as if a thin skin had been peeled off. Since high-precision AF can be performed on the image plane, the performance of the lens can be brought out in a stable manner. Until now, the image quality has deteriorated due to subtle out-of-focus.
In this way, the frequency of using A-Mount lenses has increased again, and I am very happy.

It's disappointing that 7C doesn't fully support LA-EA5. However, although the release is new, it can be inferred that the development of 7C started before the planning of LA-EA5. The hardware seems to be a generation old.
The chances that the next relatively inexpensive body will fully support the LA-EA5 are not zero.

Otherwise I'm a little troubled. My next plan is to buy a spare body.
If there are restrictions on the use of A-Mount lenses, I'll halve the budget for spares. Did you understand SONY?
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What is TLM?
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When TLM was adopted in 99, there was a debate about the decrease in light intensity and image quality. However, the overall image quality was better than 900, so I came to the conclusion that it was acceptable.

Basically, the optics should not have diagonal elements. Unless it is thin enough, it seems that TLM is not thin enough as the required image quality increases.
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Well, macronut, I sympathise with the responses you got from some sales assistants but there is huge variation in skills and attitude, and A-mount is no longer a core sales product, even for Sony, is it?
Without wishing to be at all rude, it does seem rather quixotic to be so upset that your favoured camera is now unavailable when you deliberately avoided buying it for several years in the hope that something better might come along. I understand the wish to get 'the last one' but you rarely know it will be the last one until they don't replace it!
After all, you could have bought one when it had been out for a few years, intending to trade it in when a new one came out. Maybe you didn't want to spend the money then (I wouldn't have done either), but you pays your money (or don't) and you takes your choice ...
You can look out for a s/h one in pristine condition, I guess. Personally I thought the A99II was too big, too expensive, and too complex for me, and the A7 range with LA-EAx is a better fit for my tastes and needs, but it is clearly not as good as the A99ii for focussing, given the number of things which don't work fully adapted.



Itís only my favoured camera because it is as good as A-mount will ever become. Never occurred to me that the entire continent would be completely devoid of this camera the day it was discontinued. Thatís not a common occurrence in consumer goods. I suppose it shows the horrendous sales A-mount was seeing in the last few years. Stores had no reason to stock them.

I rather like the size of this camera. FF but smaller than a person might expect.
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