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Post Options Post Options   Quote dCap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 10:22
Rumor has it that the IBIS in the A7 (R/S) II was licensed from Olympus. And the same is also said of the IBIS that was later added to Panasonic mirrorless.

But it does seem odd since Sony already had IBIS in the (KM) Dynax 7D/5D when they bought the KM camera division. The Sony a100, their first to wear a Sony badge was likely a nearly ready KM design with a Sony badge on it.

I found it real odd at the time that Olympus would 'gift' their major advantage to Sony (and then Panasonic). Okay, I'm sure money changed hands. But at the same time FF and m43 are different customer base and any new income to Olympus was something that would be good for m43. I've been about 85% Olympus during my time in m43 but switched to Panasonic in 2019.

As someone who has used IBIS in Dynax 7D, 5D, and Sony a100 I found my move out to Nikon (where I didn't own any VR lenses) was fine. While I used it a lot by default on KM/Sony I converted to the original way of shooting at higher shutter speeds.

The lack of IBIS is a big factor in me calling my move from m43 to fujifilm in Jan 2020 a mistake. There are other reasons I don't get on with fujifilm but IBIS is a big one. X-T4 being out of budget and X-S10 being non sealed helps me bounce back from my one year trial, I'd aimed to stay there 3 years at least but happy to call it 'not for me' and move to something I'll enjoy using. On paper the system works for me (enthusiast) but if you don't like the handling you won't use/enjoy the camera.

IBIS (or OIS) is now a must have for me - which helps narrow my choices today. I enjoyed 12-ish years in m43 but finding a new home has been a bit tricky. I'll have an A7 II soon. And while I know I can get 4-5 stops IBIS in m43, more with the right body and a matching OIS lens ... I'm happy with the 2-stops I'll get from the A7 II.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote owenn01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 11:15
It may well be that Sony bought into the Olympus IBIS to get around some elements of IP they couldn't otherwise implement in there own designs. Depending on how that contract was set up then they probably have the 'right' to further enhance its performance and application. And I think Sony bought into the Olympus operation for quite a while at this time so it may have been part of the 'rescue deal' whatever of the Olympus systems they saw useful?

What I find rather amusing after all these years is the subtle move from in-lens OIS to IBIS, especially from those manufacturers who so loudly rubbished that it wasn't the way to go and who, now, extol the virtues of their own systems (whether they deserve it or not).

I wouldn't be without it - I can hand-hold down to ridiculously low shutter speeds and have a degree of confidence that the shot will come out as intended. I think of all the images in the past (film days) where I didn't have that level of confidence and wonder how we ever managed without such technology.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 12:05
I remain unconvinced by e-mount, the IBIS comment about the a7 mark1 was but one example. Granted the a9 mark2, a6600, a7RIV and a7C have attractive features but not compelling enough for me to join in the e-mount fun. That alone should guaranty it's continued existence and growing popularity.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jonas A-R Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 12:43
The only a-mount camera listed by Sony.dk is the a68
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 13:27
The Sony belgian and the Sony dutch site still list the A99ii, A99 and A58

However the A68 and A77ii are MIA (as well as the A77)

I seems every country is different
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dCap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 14:29
WEX - the UK's biggest online camera store - no longer lists any Sony A mount bodies (NEW).
But they do list 29 Sony (by Sony) A mount lenses.
Until I looked that um, I gotta admit, I thought A-mount was discontinued long ago.

Official discontinuation news is extremely rare in photography.

It was more of a shock that Nikon "announced" that their 1-series was over than the reality of it coming to an end. Nobody does that!

It is a shame the companies don't use their websites to list off their former items as discontinued. And in a way I'm surprized they don't have that as an official reference page. In some countries there are laws that define how long they need to offer servicing, both warranty and paid for. Guessing, I think this is 7 years after 'discontinuation' but might vary geographically. This is likely to be behind some brands exiting certain countries early. So there is an obvious advantage to them actually sticking a date next to it.

Sure, it is tough on any retailers that have left over new old stock (unless it becomes sought after and collectable).

I'm sure some folk would love to know they got one of the last 1000 lenses by looking up their serial numbers too.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Brownie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 14:43
It was apparent to me shortly after deciding to play with A-Mount (so I can use that wonderful old Minolta Glass) that Sony had either abandoned the A or was getting ready to. They won't likely tell anyone until the dealers and warehouses have sold all they can at current market, nor would I expect them to. The Sony U.S. website lists the 99II, 77II, and 68 as current, but they're quickly becoming unavailable at the stores.

As soon as people know they've stopped production prices will drop. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a good used 99 or 99II, and lenses should get pretty cheap in a few years. I have a 700 and 65 now that I picked up in the last 2 months and paid just over $400 for the pair, both with warranties. Adding a few more backup bodies won't be a big deal, and even if they all break I can use the lenses with my Maxxums.

It sucks, but it's not the end of the world.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 14:44
Canon, Nikon, Tamron, and Sigma have discontinued lists on their websites.

Sony.jp has one too. Their main camera page there says they are out of A77II but not A99II, and of course they didn't release the A68 in Japan.

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Canon does not mention it to be discontinued. All cameras/lenses are mentioned there, current and discontinued without mentioning it is discontinued.

Nikon is interesting having a list of discontinued cameras.
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Been a while since I've been to the Canon Museum - love the fact that they recognize the engineering wonders of old and put that info out. Page layout seems to have changed since I was last there, so an active archive it is too. Respect that.

I kinda knew Nikon had something, via individual searches (for D2Xs and D700 for example) but didn't know they properly had this linked via one disco page - thanks for those @Quiet

Sony have been known to catalog some of there real old hi-fi stuff online, as a 'look what we did' thing. Would be amazeballs if they did a Throwback Thursday project and began populating it with Minolta and KM goodies of old. Or do we have a collector-fan in here who knows how to shoot studio photos?

I followed a couple of people on IG that have real nice photos of beaten up olde worlde film gear.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote macronut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 21:32
From my email Inbox today...


“Thank you for contacting the Sales Department at B&H Photo Video and Pro Audio.


As of now, Sony hasn't made any official announcement regarding if the A mount cameras/lenses will be dropped from their camera line up. If they do make an announcement, we would most likely be made aware of it at the same time as our customers. “
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Post Options Post Options   Quote macronut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 21:35
And this lame response from Sony US...

“ Thank you for contacting Sony Digital Imaging and Alpha Email Response Team.



I understand that you want to know if the A-mount line is discontinued. Sony still supports the A-mount platform. However, we have no information about an upcoming A-mount camera model. It is still possible to use existing A-mount lenses with E-mount cameras using the LA-EA5 and LA-EA4 lens adapters. The choice of adapter will depend on the camera body.”
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Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

Maybe E-mount cameras get most of the talk , but looking at the latest polls "what's your primary camera" and "what's your backup camera" it seems that A-mount is still a majority here (among the people who filled out the poll)


Yes, I thought that was interesting but the sample size is a bit low to put a lot of confidence in extrapolating the results to all of Dyxum.

I may also be underestimating the cost-hurdle people have to overcome to transition to E-mount gear.

Good to see people still shooting with the a900/a850. They really seemed to be the high point of the Minolta DNA in the Sony A-mount.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote dCap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2020 at 22:27
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:


Yes, I thought that was interesting but the sample size is a bit low to put a lot of confidence in extrapolating the results to all of Dyxum.

I may also be underestimating the cost-hurdle people have to overcome to transition to E-mount gear.

Good to see people still shooting with the a900/a850. They really seemed to be the high point of the Minolta DNA in the Sony A-mount.


The Dyxum forum also pre-dates the Sony buy out.

And even when I joined back in 2005 there were a lot of Minolta film shooters. Understandable at that time in the film/digital progression.

Full-frame IS expensive and a hurdle for sure. And not everyone wants/needs FF. On the plus side keeping the A7 II in the line-up and having the 28/2 and 50/1.8 (and 28-70/kit price) is a nice introduction. Used prices of the A7 II vs comparable FF dSLR are also good.

Gotta have some gateway options. I LOVE that the A7 II is still available NEW! III and up in vanilla and R and S cost more than my car!
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