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ianywr
Groupie Joined: 05 May 2009 Country: United Kingdom Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Posts: 129 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2009 at 19:14 |
what is the difference between the RS version of the minolta and the older version... it is stated in the guide that the circular blades are not incorporated... what effect does that have on the pictures??
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BillCB
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2009 at 03:03 |
http://www.popphoto.com/Reviews/Lenses/Lens-Test-Sigma-70mm-f-2.8-EX-DG-Macro-AF
On the basis of this review ("it's faultless") I have ordered the Sigma 70 mm macro. (I want a short one for hiking). I'll let you know how it does. Bill |
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pdeley
Senior Member Joined: 05 June 2008 Country: United States Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 2718 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2009 at 11:51 |
Great summary!
If this gets fleshed out more, then it is worth mentioning manual focus macro lenses as an option for those looking to get into macro on a tight budget. Lacking AF is no big deal for macro work, though sacrificing SSS and having to stop down manually are more significant constraints. Nevertheless, if you're willing to work around that you can find excellent MF macro lenses with appropriate adapter for a total expenditure of only $100-$150. One of my own favorites is an old Vivitar 90mm f2.8 macro in Canon FD mount that cost me all of $65 (plus $45 for the FD to alpha adapter). I find myself using that more often than my AF Sigma 50mm f2.8 macro and it has kept me more than happy enough that I've not felt the need to save up for an AF macro in the 90-105mm range. Here are two example shots with it: Edited by pdeley - 16 May 2009 at 11:53 |
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a450, a500, a65, a7, 700si & other 35 mm bodies, Sig 15-30, sam 30 2.8 macro, Pentax 40 2.8 pan, Sig 70 f2.8 macro, Vivi 90 f2.8 macro, Mino 100-400 apo, 300 f4, 500 f8, 600 f4
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Mark L
Senior Member Joined: 28 August 2007 Country: United Kingdom Location: North Dorset Status: Offline Posts: 3750 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2009 at 12:21 |
Circular blades produce a smoother bokeh -- a term used to describe the quality of OOF areas of an image. The shallower the depth of field, the more OOF areas there are and consequently bokeh becomes more important. Having said that I do think that sometimes people get a little too concerned about bokeh. I have an old style Minolta 100mm macro and the quality of the OOF areas has never been a problem for me. And in fact I posted a photo of a grass snake here recently and someone commented on how good they thought the bokeh was |
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Bernie
Newbie Joined: 07 June 2009 Location: Germany Status: Offline Posts: 2 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2009 at 10:29 |
Great info!
my old Sigma 50/2.8 Macro (without an letters) is making troubles. Sometimes AF gets stuck. So i am thinking of a replacment. I would pick between Sigma 70, Tamron 90 or Sigma 105. A german magazine recommends Sigma 70, Sigma 105 both better than the Tamron 90. But most people in forums recommend the Tamron 90. so.... hard decision. I tend the Sigma 70. Any advise welcome! TIA Bernie |
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Bob J
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2009 at 11:24 |
Any of these macros are really sharp and really good, the only thing wrong with any of them is slow autofocus (goes with the territory) - I'd say to do the choice on F/L and balance of the lenses on your camera (ie try them out before you buy). Difficult to go far wrong.
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RBJ ~ Moderation on Dyxum
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eccles
Senior Member Joined: 20 August 2007 Country: United Kingdom Location: Bristol Status: Offline Posts: 998 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 July 2009 at 18:24 |
A word of warning about Sigma macro lenses on the A700. The AF motor on the A700 is known to be high torque and it can eat ring gears that are not up to it. I had a pre-digital version Sigma EX 105mm that stripped its ring gear within nine months of me owning it. To be fair, it was second hand when I bought it so I don't know how much use it had had before I got it. But I ordered a replacement ring gear and fitted it myself, and I didn't think much of the quality of the plastic used, either in the one I took out, or the one I replaced it with. I assume that because I was able to purchase a new ring gear then the part is identical to that in the current version.
I now have a series 1 Minolta 100mm and it's a superb lens. |
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Wētāpunga
Senior Member Joined: 02 September 2007 Country: New Zealand Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Posts: 6827 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 July 2009 at 01:06 |
I'd like to see more examples of the Sigma 70, as it has a good reputation and was 'the new kid' on the block when I started macro. Alas, some of my internet trawling indicates that there are some dud lenses of this ilk, and Sigma quality control is not exemplary.
Nonetheless, if I had one thing to say abhout macro photography it is to stop worrying about getting the best possible macro lens. All the discussed variants above are excellent at the task. If you want to squeeze the best possible image out of the camera, you need to be worrying about lighting and stability a little more, and a little less about worrying about the lens you buy |
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α1, α7cii- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF
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Shaggy8675
Senior Member Joined: 13 June 2009 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 169 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 July 2009 at 21:21 |
Wel, i got my Sigma 70, and i'm verry pleased with it. That thing is amazing. Used for macro on small bugs, used on kids faces, indoor sports, thing is verry nice, and i paid €350 for it incl. shipping! Doesn't get anny better than that...
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Sony α-300
Sony, Minolta & Sigma Glas I see & shoot my life in B&W |
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Stan53
Senior Member Joined: 17 December 2008 Country: Australia Location: Cairns Status: Offline Posts: 643 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 July 2009 at 10:42 |
I have just had my Sigma 105 EX DG repaired (under warranty)- only 10 months old - stripped gear and it was used on the A300 and rarely on the A700. It stripped whilst being used on the A300 - repaired quickly by Sigma but not good concerning the professional quality this lens is suppose to be.
I must say the the images from this lens are very sharp and I have not noticed any color casts. Edited by Stan53 - 21 July 2009 at 10:44 |
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Stan aka Peter
A77 A700 A300, 16-80CZ, 18-70 KIT, Min 300 f4, 70-300g Sigma 105 EX DG 200-400 Tamron Flickr |
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justin
Newbie Joined: 16 January 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 9 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 July 2009 at 09:46 |
I did a froogle.com search for the sigma 70mm macro (http://www.google.com/products?q=sigma+70mm+macro+sony&aq=f)
And the second option when I searched was $299.99 from a site called Abe's of Maine (http://www.abesofmaine.com/item.do?item=SG70DGAFSN&id=SG70DGAFSN&l=FROOGLE) Anyways, Froogle has pretty solid user reviews of that website apparently, but I was wondering if anyone here has had experience with this site? Thanks! Justin |
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scotartt
Groupie Joined: 23 July 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Posts: 49 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 July 2009 at 11:09 |
Hello
On the basis of this thread and the reviews on the site I just scored a Minolta 50mm f/3.5 macro lens off Ebay. I just had to "buy it now"; still a lot cheaper than the Sony version new. Thanks to the O.P. and contributors and lens reviewers. |
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--> A300; 55-200mm f/4-5.6 kit; 18-70mm f/3.5-5.6 kit; Minolta 50mm f/3.5 Macro; Minolta 70-210mm f/4 "beercan"; Sony DT 35mm f/1.8; me @ flickr <---
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Mr_Canuck
Senior Member Joined: 29 April 2008 Country: Canada Location: BC Status: Offline Posts: 501 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 August 2009 at 23:31 |
I have a Minolta 50RS that I bought used here on Dyxum. It's awesome as a walk around macro, very portable. I agree that it is well suited to hand-held shooting. I haven't gotten into tripod work, probably because I have a lousy tripod. But the only negative of the 50 is that you have to get really, really close. Otherwise it is a gem. The clarity of the images is astounding. Colour is great.
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mcneep
Newbie Joined: 17 May 2009 Country: United Kingdom Status: Offline Posts: 35 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2009 at 21:02 |
Thanks for all the advice, I'm looking at getting a macro lens and have been offered the 90mm, I think I'll take the plunge and get it now.
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