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contemporary farming ...cell phone! ;-)


 



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Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:

Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

beautiful!
het lijkt de Leeuwentrap wel?
i.e. what they placed in front of it to prevent car drivers from taking the shortcut?


Yes!

I always thought it was some kind of windscreen but whatever its function I rather like it, but I'm never wholly satisfied with my captures of it.

kind of like it too! (don't think the holes will stop the wind? ? did you know that the people downstairs, (Badhuisstraat, Julianalaan), behind the boulevard and Lion steps, get serious fall winds ever since those monstrous <beep> high-rises on the boulevard were built?).
tried it only once (to take a pic, with a lensbaby), it's a tricky one indeed. but since MY middle name isn't 'master of composition', it's all yours!

Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:

Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

(you were supposed to say Jacobskerk. ;-) or never walked around it?).
riddle #2 is for Peter. got him something.


No, never did. For some reason I always seem to miss (or maybe NOT miss :-)) that church when we're in Vlissingen. Thanks for reminding me!

and you could go UP! (up up). ;-)
that church recently became a lot more interesting. (to be continued?).
you know where it is, that there were/are plenty of pubs/bars in the vicinity? and therefore both church and church walls were once popular urinals during dark hours. so one day, someone hung a sign onto the church, saying: 'God sees you!'.





view from the Leeuwentrap / Lion steps

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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

someone hung a sign onto the church, saying: 'God sees you!'.


Nowadays God is replaced by surveillance cameras.
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never noticed any. perhaps they assume the church has been under surveillance all along? ;-)


Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:

Originally posted by angora angora wrote:


I tend to think this partiality is more likely a display of human nature?


You are too kind Ine. The SGP is a nasty bunch with unsavoury sympathies.

have been giving that a bit of thought. (not easy ;-)). and didn't say nice things about human nature in general?
so through with 'people' at times! could bring up a gazillion examples, couldn't we all? :-S (my mother had died. she was barely dead when my 'very best friend' -of 25 years- vanished. along with my mother's pearls + a mere fortune worth of silver coins). and so on? people?? !!!
(WHY is it that Dyxum is so often described as being civilized and respectful? and nice? because we seem to be an exception, compared to the average fora, aren't we? ).
I know quite a number of people who are obviously very religious and we get along fine? L. however knows many reformed people and is very opinionated, none of it flattering, to put it mildly. but pretty much aware, even witnessed, there are many people who make their lives and the lives of others a living hell, based on the scripture. (sensing lots of fear though?).

long ago, in Vlissingen, there were people who called the police when others hung the laundry outside on sunday.
here we are a little cautious what (not) to do on sundays, trying to be considerate of other people. I'll work, but we won't make lots of noise mowing lawns and such (!). because we know that -nice!- neighbours wouldn't appreciate that.
I have friends (so very dear to my heart), who are so much 'into the Lord', they even had their own church.
most lovable people on the planet, of the most reliable kind. been invited to their home numerous times, but not once to their church. they respect my ideas, as I respect theirs. and at the rare occasions the subject comes up, talking about whatever experiences, they will say things like: "to ME, that was God" (instead of "it was God"). never ever tried to convert me. and never judge. (btw- noticed at their parties, seeing their church friends as well, there seem to be typical clear fashionable trends -that I don't see elsewhere-? pointy shoes! (yes! ) and the shortest skirts and shorts I'd ever seen. ;-) they do work on sundays).
I happen to like the 2 churches in this village, the obvious sense of community? quite a number of fairs and flea markets there every year. apart from concerts n all. don't know these people's names, but they do 'know' me. last time one of the men said: "I've already put all the lenses in a box for you". ;-) and practically 'gave' me a new Tak family? (M42! blessed stuff). ;-)
once though, at the other church -'s flea market-, neighbour Jan -who often brings vegetables from their kitchen garden or bolussen and oliebollen- said: "come, I want you to meet our elder." "no, don't do that." but there he was. I said I appreciated his time, but didn't need to become converted and the man said: "if you are not in favour of Jesus, you are against Jesus!" ???
familiar with the 'well-known' 'glossy' Terdege? ;-) looked it up, and it's indeed reformed.
friendly people, they called me once to ask for pics, because their Christmas issue was featuring Leo and his 'Amish ways'.
but L. isn't very religious at all. he works with horses, because he loves horses. and started farming, (unhappy as 'mechanical engineer'. (i.e. werktuigkundige?)), because he had a huge plot of land for his 'ringriding' horses. and built a farm on it.
presumably the only one in the country with a fully horse-powered farm, except for planting (we have Ferrari's for that. ;-)).
which is actually very clever, as the heavy machinery tends to pack the soil, a bad recipe for water absorption, kills worms and turns the soil upside down i.e. plows way too deep, etc. crop yield is so much better and never been unable to get onto the land -with his lightweighest horses- after heavy rainfall, unlike the other farmers who saw their produce go to waste. and profitable because all is organic.
the 'modern' horse-drawn machines do come from the Amish, for the simple reason they are the only manifacturers to purchase them from, apart from the museum? ;-) couple of years ago, they did visit the Amish, which had been on the bucketlist for decades.
(many places there had Walcheren names. L. said: "I thought I was almost home." ;-)). they were welcomed?

'in short', I'm afraid you have a point. and suppose you must be right. (are they evil?).






forgot! if I recall correctly, Trudy decided to change gender while growing up. believe she is male now. ;-)
   


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Eindelienge is dialect for 'eindelijk' / at last






march 2014- Prins, Elza, Frida
+ a bucket to offer the horses a sip of water every once in a while, warm weather already.
Frida is the oldest of the lot, 23 now. she was not born on the farm. the other 2 were, 1 week apart from each other.
Elza as daughter of Bianca (who died in 2009 or 2010, but never took her pic) and Prins as the son of Irma -at age 23-.
(ma & son. ma was 1/4 Gelders, a CRAPPY -whatdoyoureckonthatbrownstuffis?- Fuji W3 3D-jpeg).








beloved horses...
(galore )


-remember J. Tull? ;-) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDYK5SBnVaQ







Iron-clad feather-feet pounding the dust






An October's day, towards evening






Sweat embossed veins standing proud to the plough
Salt on a deep chest seasoning







Last of the line at an honest day's toil






Turning the deep sod under






Flint at the fetlock, chasing the bone
Flies at the nostrils plunder.



The Suffolk, the Clydesdale, the Percheron vie
with the Shire on his feathers floating
Hauling soft timber into the dusk
to bed on a warm straw coating.






Heavy Horses, move the land under me
Behind the plough gliding --- slipping and sliding free







Now you're down to the few






And there's no work to do






The tractor's on its way.







Let me find you a filly for your proud stallion seed
to keep the old line going.







And we'll stand you abreast at the back of the wood
behind the young trees growing







To hide you from eyes that mock at your girth,
and your eighteen hands at the shoulder







And one day when the oil barons have all dripped dry
and the nights are seen to draw colder







They'll beg for your strength, your gentle power
your noble grace and your bearing







And you'll strain once again to the sound of the gulls






in the wake of the deep plough, sharing.






Standing like tanks on the brow of the hill
Up into the cold wind facing







In stiff battle harness, chained to the world






Against the low sun racing ;-)








Bring me a wheel of oaken wood
A rein of polished leather
A Heavy Horse and a tumbling sky
Brewing heavy weather.







Bring a song for the evening
Clean brass to flash the dawn
across these acres glistening
like dew on a carpet lawn







In these dark towns folk lie sleeping
as the heavy horses thunder by







to wake the dying city
with the living horseman's cry








At once the old hands quicken ---
bring pick and wisp and curry comb ---







thrill to the sound of all
the heavy horses coming home.



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Elza & Prins

october 1, 2011
waiting till we, workhorses, we done slaving
-posted before-





Odin had an 8-legged horse. he was the strongest horse in the world.






Elza & Prins










Prins
of Eindelienge

1999 - march 27, 2019






Elza
of Eindelienge

1999 - july 9, 2019


REST*IN*PEACE

 



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Q if I may?
playing with an album and a bad pic from 2011, taken on a grim september day.
-horrible light and so dark that my camera got the hiccups-.






'powered by nature' (or empowered by nature?), would that be proper english?
('english' is the new dutch? ). is there anyone here who can come up with a decent equivalent in dutch?
(with exactly the same meaning, that sounds rather nice? perhaps I'll use it on a better pic?). THX? ;-)
-'biologisch dynamisch' means 'organic dynamic' btw-.


(and speaking of ...turkeys?
came across my 1st -early 2014- A99 'test shots')






at the Middelburg petting zoo



















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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

Q if I may?

'powered by nature' (or empowered by nature?), would that be proper english?
('english' is the new dutch? ). is there anyone here who can come up with a decent equivalent in dutch?


"powered by nature" would be translated to "aangedreven door de natuur"

"empowered" is probably the wrong word and means "gemachtigd" in Dutch.

But pls. note that I am an engineer that worked for an American company so my english may be quite crooked, however don't despair, we have a former genuine english teacher among us here on Dyxum, so he can probably come up with even better suggestions
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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:


Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:


You are too kind Ine. The SGP is a nasty bunch with unsavoury sympathies.

have been giving that a bit of thought.    


Thank you for your thoughts Ine! I'm sure there are very decent people in that party but nowadays there's a great deal wrong with this, once respectable, party link
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However, we are not supposed to discuss politics on Dyxum so maybe we should leave it at this.
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Beautiful poetry in words and images Ine!

Re your question about powered/empowered, I think Pieter explained it quite nicely, for a simple engineer.
When you you are empowered you have been given power to do something, mostly used in a legal sense; authorized is a synonym. It can also be used in the less legal sense of 'enable', 'make strong' but usually it would be applied to people.

In this case, the plough is given power and imo "powered by nature" would be the right phrase.
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THANK YOU SO much, Pieter & Leo! greatly appreciated!!!
(not LMAO, wouldn't dare ).
couldn't think of anything less stupid than: 'bekrachtigd door de natuur' or, most obvious: 'door de kracht van de natuur'.
'middels de kracht van de natuur' actually, but how corny is that?
'let the force of mother nature be with you?' but I like the power word, sounds quite eh powerful? ;-)
(found a pic on which I had made a (bee-o-logisch / o zo logisch) logo once. pres. started experiments on that one, because it was a clean canvas/'slate' ;-), there is no sky. couldn't read what was written in the grass, it happened to be(e) 'powered by nature' - + bee in the middle- and thought that sounded rather catchy?
(meant for them of course IF they could use it?).

what I was actually trying to refer to was the farm and its produce, and its natural (organic) ways. driven by nature?
and everything involved -in the process-: horses, horse-drawn machines, plants, our mother the earth, the sun, magnetism and people (who tend to forget they are nature themselves? ;-)) and so on. the whole concept, based on collaboration with nature, instead of trying to control it (good luck then!).


Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:

Beautiful poetry in words and images Ine!

TY! (just venting emotions , forgive me? hurt so much to say farewells to Prins and Elza).
didn't you know that song?

(btw- had told D., son of L. & M., (too young to remember Jethro Tull), about that song, years ago. only song about draft horses on the planet? last tuesday, he told me he had played it for someone, -known for his publications in dialect-, who has now recently 'translated' it in Zeeland dialect. "iesers en spieren", he had called it, D. said. (iesers > ijzers/horse shoes)).
how to translate 'a Heavy Horse and a tumbling sky'? ;-)
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that 2nd/NRC linkie!
for some undefined reason I never think politics when I hear something about the SGP. rather refos, bible belt, black stockings, judgemental, etc.?
but you're right. let's skip politics and go to church.






the S(a)int Jacobskerk is THE church in Vlissingen.
Michiel was baptised and married there and it has seen its share of historical events.

















Peter/KoBra- IF you can 'hear' me? I went to church for you. to get you something.




rara?

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riddle?
does anyone know where -in Vlissingen- this is?



1634





Branderijstraat if I'm not mistaken. At the back of the St. Jacobskerk.
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Branderijstraat!
wow, don't think many locals would know where the Branderijstraat is.
or w/b able to tell what the street behind the church is called.
(I knew, but only because friends used to live there).
and you are in NEW Zeeland?
- would love to hear your story!!! -





Branderijstraat












was actually running around the church, because I was searching for a sign.
and for some stumbling stones, that had been placed in the Lepelstraat in may.





here lived...
Barend Bouwman, murdered -in 1942- in Auschwitz
Liza Bouwman-Noach, murdered -in 1943- in Sobibor

these people had a life once, in Vlissingen.
it's described here -in dutch-.






the church is actually much bigger than it seems,
due to its location.












and since we were talking politics ;-)
found this on my homepage this morning.


and from 2017:
'dear mister president'...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28ArLn5Nf8Y

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