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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:


still no PS, still no fast new comp. -instead I bought a massive lens.
many THX to Fred for the heads up!! an offer too good to pass up ...-

My pleasure Ine, looking forward to the pictures with your latest acquisition!
 



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Great series and a joy to watch. I like the diversity, b&w, flowers, kids, old people; lovely work. TFS Ine
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Still by far my favorite thread on Dyxum, Ine. The diversity of the old, the new, the weird and the wonderful never stops to amaze me!
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TYSM gents!!!
(late response- kinda speechless!!!).
meeen je dat, Paul?
nu de foto's nog? !
(I'm a s*cker for weird ). if the topic w/b Vlissingen, weird would be the keyword.
did you happen to see the girl in her panty kousjes / panty socks btw? ;)





the island of Walcheren
since it shows a railroad, a dam + a canal, from after 1871.
(where Walcheren and Zuid-Beveland are connected, is the Sloedam btw, constructed in 1871 for the railway. this is were the action was in the Battle of the Scheldt aka 'the forgotten battle' movie).
after the dam was installed, the area around it silted up, salt marshes were formed and later impoldered. 2 polders north of it, no success, they later vanished and 2 on the south side. not too big, because ship yard de Schelde needed an open fairway with deep water and the area was transformed into the new harbour of Vlissingen and industrial Vlissingen-East, commonly known as 'het Sloe'. turning the island of Walcheren into a peninsula. what remains of the original Sloe, the water between Zuid-Beveland and Walcheren, are a marina on the north side and a creek, west of the sea dyke. nowadays there is also a highway beside the Sloedam, but it is still the only route to get off the island (or to it for that matter). apart from our sorely missed ferries.




loose morals at a Souburg tavern in 1875


previous posts-   thought I had to explain what 'curls' are, to precede a certain tale.
but you know what happens, when loudly trumpeting a local 'ghost' story,
not too creepy anyway, it will turn out to be lame and extra disappointing.
but here it comes:


THE OLD SAGA OF THE ROUND 'WELL'




LONG, very long ago... at the outskirts of the village of Oost-Souburg, there was a little pool, known as het ronde putje / the round 'well'. presumably once -upon a time- dug as a watering hole. it was a popular stopping place during pleasure jaunts across the island, to hang out for a while, and to let the horse(s) drink. (fact! -a 100-200 meters down the road were several taverns in hamlet Groot(e)-Abeele, the oldest (?) since 1679, but nm-).



and all that's left...


in the village of Oost-Souburg at that time, lived a pretty girl named Keetje. sweet and kind, the only daughter of a poor hardworking farmer, who owned 3 cows. every day she went to Middelburg with the dog-(drawn-)cart to hawk the milk, and often stopped at the round well to admire her reflection in the water. but Keetje had a problem: (because her daddy couldn't afford golden curls,) her curls were made out of copper. this bothered her tremendously, especially since she had fallen in love with Arjaan* / Eine* (* depending on the version of the story ;)), son of a rich* / the richest* farmer in the neighbourhood, whom she had met at the carnival / fun fair. and he was madly in love with her, and didn't care that she was poor.



Walcheren 1875


one day, while taking a sip of water from the round pool, pure and clear, she came up with a brilliant idea.
if she diluted the milk with water, there would be more to sell. and more to gain. and so it happened. while at first she added just a little water, and earned a couple of stuivers/pennies/nickels extra, soon she was selling half milk-half water. and when customers complained that the milk looked blue-ish, she said that the cows were not well, or that the milk was less fat because of the weather.

finally she had saved up enough money to go buy her golden curls. over the moon, she rushed to the pool to see how awesome the new curls looked on her, when all of a sudden the curls came loose and fell into the water,

there are several versions of the story:

Ze grijpt het na; het baat niet meer,
Een stem rijst uit den vloed:
"Wat van mij kwam, keert tot mij weer,
Nooit dijt gestolen goed."

(she tries to grab them; it does not help)
a voice came / 'rose up' from the water:
"what came from me, returns to me,
ill-gotten gains never benefit anyone".


and they lived happily ever .....?
and never in her life she would dilute the milk again.
lesson learned.


in the most widely spread version however...




...and when she tried to grab hold of them, she fell into the water and ...drowned.


and to this day, every night, around midnight, a pale wraith rises up from the water,
and you'll hear:
‘Half water, half melk! Te krap gemeten! De ziel vergeten!’    
'Half water, half milk! Too tightly measured! The soul forgotten!'





but more peculiar happenings have been reported.
sometimes horses, pulling a wagon, would freeze at night, immovable.
tormentors could jump onto your back, you could see witte wieven* hovering, dancing or
encounter a woman without a head or a white lady, late at night.
(just saying...?).


* ghostly witte wieven unlike the 'wise women' mentioned 'here' and wieven as in: 'wijven',
not known for their good intentions. ;)
https://www.iamexpat.nl/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/dutch-folklore-witte-wieven
or, better
https://www.iamexpat.nl/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/dutch-ghost-stories-spirits-and-apparitions



2018- drought- pool turned into puddle


from the old Zeeland Saga book -1933- (that you can read 'here'):

on an autumn day... perhaps as long as 50 years ago, (thus approx. 1875?), my brother Sio and I drove to Middelburg to deliver a wagon load of hay. I don't recall why, but we got into an argument with the merchant, and when we drove away, he shouted that he would get us. it took a while for us to finish our business in town and when we drove home, along the old Middelburg road, it had become dark.
all of a sudden, while passing the 'round putje' near Oost-Souburg, a white lady was walking ahead of our horses. this scared the .... <beep! > out of us and we spurred on the horses, but however fast they went, the lady was still floating in front of them. desperately Sio tried to whip the ghost, then regretted it, as immediately she sat on the wagon's pole, at our feet. it was not until we approached the village, that she disappeared.






in honour of vain Keetje -or to accompany her ;) -, a sculpture was installed in 1994. made by -friend- Jan Haas.
this really was a well-known stopping place once, when pleasure jaunts across the island were very popular.




1875, the only pic I could find
(like a beer cart a Walcheren verenwagen) therefore, and because of the tale, they kept it.
(and luckily didn't replaced it by a skyscraper of some sort, or another pile of bricks or concrete).


because the saga of milkmaid Keetje is a legend, the experts had to unravel the story. concluding it's unlikely for curls to come loose, because they are attached to a oorijzer / literally 'ear iron', a frame . (never heard of 'ear curls' though, as mentioned on the sign beside the 'well'). (I happen to have a pair of copper childrens' curls, each on whatlookslike a leg of glasses btw. but could have been a DIY project once? -the stuff one supposedly 'needs'! as photo props. but for other purposes than one would think?- ;)). and secondly, very unlikely to have your curls vanish into the 'depths' of this pool, or to drown in it, especially during times of drought. and, there are simular stories told elsewhere.



drought of 2018


also from the 2nd half 19th century (weird times)- Zeeland according to Potgieter:
last 2 verses

Blijf wat gij waart, toen ge blonkt als een bloem;
Zorg, dat Europe den zetel der orde,
Dat de verdrukte zijn wijkplaats u noem’,
Land mijner Vaadren, mijn lust en mijn roem!

Wat dan de donkere toekomst bewaart,
Wat uit haar zwangere wolken ook worde:
Lauwren behooren aan ’t vleklooze zwaard,
Land, eens het vrijste en gezegendst’ der aard!



1t sentence- Stay what you were, when you shone like a flower;
last one- Land, once the freest, most blessed on earth.

oh well


Edited by angora - 10 April 2022 at 16:15
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guess what? it's International Film Photography Day!
( ...according to Lomography's newsletter that just landed ;)).


just found a pic from the day, november 3rd, 2017, that Middelburg was virtually flooded.
(and I was wrestling with a tripod ).





Water Light

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ever heard of -dutch- Daan Roosegaarde?

https://www.studioroosegaarde.net/projects/all

https://www.studioroosegaarde.net/stories/exhibitions


he has created amazing and fabulous stuff!
(MHO, but I'm a s*cker for light -in every sense of the word- !).
not everything equally brilliant, but well-worth checking out ?


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btw- during the virtual flooding of Middelburg, a party in honour of its 800th BD, there was not much to see. a blue light completely covering a pitch dark Market + some scum -of the 'sea' ;) -. too little actually; spent most of the time tripping over G. knows what, searching for the friend I had come with. and intended to drive home with. but it was fun. surreal!
unfortunately the city hall, normally lit (by LEDs nowadays; even nominated -dutch- for the Darc Awards -event- in London), was just as dark, for the occasion. but WATER LIGHT must look great from afar? (love the mixed light, with a softly lit slot Loevestein in the BG, as shown 'here').








THE PHOTO INDUSTRY OF pre-war MIDDELBURG



'money ma'am?'

A.K.A. 'modern begary' business -dutch article from 1931- of the ladies from Arnemuiden...




esp. on thursdays, market days. in the BG the 'photo shop' of Henning.




with an overload of subjects to choose from...




found a staggering amount of 'proof' from the -early- '30s in the image archives of Arnemuiden
(where else! 'zoeken' op / 'search' for 'money meneer').
and when they didn't have young kids themselves, they borrowed them -dutch-.





















this imposing of themselves en masse on tourists (like flies! ), seemed to be quite an issue for the city.
the police tried to act against this form of begary, but found it sheer impossible to fight.











in 'short': it was huge...










another target was Vlissingen, especially the railway station.
beside the terminal of the mail boat...

 



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since the Sloedam connected the island of Walcheren to the world ánd to the railway, the steam train made an appearance in 1873. + shipping services to England.
mail from about 'everywhere' (even Siberia for instance) was transported by train to Vlissingen and by boat from Vlissingen to London, from where it was sent to destinations all over the world. but people and 'other' cargo were welcome to board as well, for viability. (even the transport of livestock was considered. instead they built a slaughterhouse near the harbour , to be able to deliver fresh meat and oysters from Yerseke, Zeeland, in London every day). until WWI.
when ships were sunk and it was too difficult to finance the build of new ships.


after that only a daylight service in summer remained, this time especially for tourists, up to 1000 tourists per crossing. (hence a new name for 'Grand Hotel des Bains' at Boulevard Evertsen, renamed 'Britannia'). until the beginning of WWII, when the boats 'temporarily' departed from Hoek van Holland, because the facilities in Vlissingen had been destroyed by our German visitors. but they would never return to Vlissingen again.
(except for the Olau Line that sailed from Vlissingen to Sheerness and vice versa, from 1974 until 1994. -also a great opportunity to get your fags at approx. 1/5 of the (UK) price.- although we got a bit tired of drunk Brits at times, mainly during weekends, all over town, it was a shame to see it go! ).   


both the railroad and mail boat flourished, in particular the 1930's would become golden years. people from all over Europe, from Moscow, Berlin, Vienna, younameit, took the luxurious international train, complete with sleeping carriages and a restaurant, to Vlissingen, and the boat to the UK from there.

+
story about mail and mail boats in particular, but with brilliant footage; Vlissingen and also London in the '30s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrJgZ7fN50E
+
about the Steamship Company, thus mail boats, in the '30s and lots of footage from Vlissingen as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Kr0vokXz0







HAPPY EASTER !


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https://www.facebook.com/DusDatKwoots/videos/1154071932036223

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Post Options Post Options   Quote angora Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 April 2022 at 13:29
hope you are all enjoying this easter tide. ordered you sunshine!
(no snow this year for a change! ).


and the times...





couple of oldies from Middelburg, in the grip of a virus named corona- september 2020, when people on terraces were not the most common sight









although we, natives ;), all agreed to have never seen a more crowded island than during the summer of 2020.
outrageous! lots of fellow country(wo)men though. in 2021 'summer' did not even happen. (WET and 'freezing' cold).





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2021- building site























+ the one I didn't dare to submit in the 'seeing shapes' contest
(c/b me though)
























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Lovely captures of my fave flower Ine! Building sites are so photogenic.

Last Saturday I went to Flushing for the city's celebration of its liberation from Spanish occupation 450 years ago, in 1572. Part of the celebration was the 16th-century Market, an event that evokes the historical period of the Dutch revolt against Spain.

Some impressions:

1 Dental care in the 16th century


2 Uroscopist in 1572


3 Life's hard for a cripple


4 Troubled minds


5 The happy undertakers


6 The beauty of a dairymaid


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Leo,
Great to see this glimpse of history being re-enacted with such loving attention to authentic detail. And wonderful you are able to 'time travel' and take us with you from a great distance.
Lovely shots.
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Thanks Joe!
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Here are a few more shots from this event.
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TY! excellent!! GREAT shots! (and bunch ;)).
TYVMFS!

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