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not what you presumably think this is? ;-)

Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:

Good church shots, churches are cool!

yes, they are!
(can't pass a church nowadays without running inside! ;-)
perhaps that will change when the temperatures drop?).
and c/b boring?

-speaking of- the St. Jacobschurch in action...






















(promised, in april 2014, I would attend Mieke's performance with her choir, but she happened to be sick that day.
therefore took some pics to show her how 'great' ;-) her 'brothers and sisters' -dressed up for the occasion- looked).














'treated' to a 'great' () performance by some girls from the province of Brabant































ceiling






(does this sound familiar? so you are waiting for the right moment, for instance in front of a church door,
all set up, but when you press the shutter, the camera goes on strike. to find the card was full. )





meanwhile Sjaco & his boys were waiting

 



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Flushing in 1576

-pic of 1 of the copies that were sold at the Oostkerk in 2017.
approximately 4000 inhabitants back then.
showing the Kom + Alva's citadel in the bottom right corner-



for what it's worth...
IF you'd care to know what this was all about...

1st the boring- long ago, during the 'eighty years war', the southern- aka 'Habsburg' Netherlands (i.e. Holland, Belgium & Luxembourg) were part of the spanish empire. they were not too thrilled about it. (hence that war -that lasted from 1568 till 1648). the people of Flushing were hungry. while the spanish and wallonian troops, stationed here, were the 1st to receive food supplies, the Flushing citizens were becoming more and more dependent on those supplies, but were getting less and less, and the spanish and wallonians were getting more and more.
on the night of april 5, 1572, the spanish required even more living quarters from the city council. when the Flushing people heard about that on easter morning, april 6, during a boisterous sermon at the St. Jacobschurch, they were furious and took off to the city hall.
a guy, who was either drunk or retarded, offered to climb onto the wall and fire a cannon at the spanish battle fleet off Flushing, for a couple of pints. to everyone's surprise, he did fire a cannon and the fleet rushed off.

during the following night, the citizens captured the enemy troops, took their cannons and used them to sink the remaining spanish brigs. within 2 days, the citizens of Flushing had thrown the city council and spanish authorities in jail and had chased off the wallonian troops. this became known as the Flushing revolt. but is actually little known. and, while 'everybody' knows about Den Briel, the Flushing revolt has no part in national history, not even in local history classes.

meanwhile the Geuzen / Sea Beggars had used ports in south-east England for a number of years. until, in 1572, Elizabeth kicked them out, (fearing that their presence might antagonise spanish king Philip II). while sailing 'home', a storm forced the fleet to seek shelter in Den Briel/'the Brill', (Holland), which they found almost undefended, as the spanish troops happened to be in Utrecht putting down riots. so they claimed Den Briel for William of Orange. on april 1! the Flushing people had heard of this success and the citizens'committee send the sea beggars a plea for help, but on arrival on april 13, there was hardly anything left for them to do.

shortly after the wallonians were kicked out of town, some royal spanish brigs arrived. on board was Don Pedro Paceico, Alva's cousin, who came to check on the building of the -spanish- citadel, unaware of the changed situation. the locals had already begun to demolish the citadel and Don Pedro was jailed for a month. and then they hanged him.
they hang him every year.





Pacieco hanged in Vlissingen, 1572
Don Pedro Pacieco opper krygs bouwmeester des H. van Alva, nevens twee Spaensche Jonkers Opgehangen tot Vlissingen in den Jaare 1572 (title on object)

etching by Jan Luyken, Rijks museum


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writing april, 1572





more specific- april 20, 2019





a warm spring day





and the boys were back
traffic all around











while waiting (till they were done blowing up enemy fleets or ?)
a great day to 'play revolt' -previous story-





(knights used to use a heavier type of horse btw.
but -also as.far.as.I.know- were already extinct in 1572?)













@ Bellamypark, Vlissingen










'Don Pedro' taking a short ride





















photographer on the prowl?

















hair okay?











so much for the hanging, as we are not allowed to show the bloody stuff here (I think?)


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marking the spot where the gallows once were
2nd row: photographers








Op 1 april verloor Alva zijn bril
Aprilletje 6 verloor Alva zijn fles

'On April 1st, Alva lost his glasses
On April 6th Alva lost his bottle'


'bril' is the dutch word for glasses, but is also a pun on the name of the town, Den Briel, as is 'fles', which stands for the town of Vlissingen, the next town to be captured.
it is claimed that the tradition of pranks on april 1st arose to commemorate the victory in Den Briel and humiliation of the spanish commander.














bottle / flask- the coat of arms of Vlissingen


















the sound of music:
some '16th century' videos ;-)
hard to find 'folk songs' with those instruments! they did play some rather catchy music.
and seemed to belong to a theatre group from the province of Gelderland.





wearing St.Jacob's- / St.James' shells!







































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Hi Angora, your pictures gave me a good impression of that Dutch folklore. I don't think Dutch folklore can be translated into English. All foreigners think "Crazy Dutch", but we are still a little bit proud that we stood up against tiranny for 80 years.

History lesson for the not Dutch: from 1568 till 1648 the Dutch battled against the emperor of Spain for their freedom.

But we are friends now!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote angora Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 September 2019 at 07:53
TY Hans! pleased to 'meet' you!
(when I think of folklore, I have visions of oversized shoes beside fireplaces and endless wishlists. ;-) and, of course, more corny stuff. this Flushing event was pretty corny too! friends? in the 1960s/-70s the dutch invaded Spain, even took over (patatje van Adje, snert van Bert, etc.). ;-) ).

for Vlissingen the 80 years' war became the 4 years' war. Alva threw a fit when he heard about the Flushing revolt and sent an armada, that arrived during the last days of april 1572. but the spanish would never set foot on Flushing soil again.
despite another attempt in april 1573, known as the battle of Flushing. since 1574, after the siege of Middelburg, the island of Walcheren was free. and remained free.
the capture of Den Briel and Vlissingen was actually a sign for rebellion for the rest of the low lands and led to 80 years of war.
(but in the end the flemish, who did survive the spanish fury, were the losers. to hinder the spanish, the people of Zeeland blocked off our (!) Western Scheldt (river), which meant the end of trade for Antwerp.

btw- the spanish fury massacre in Antwerp is so shocking! the mutining soldiers were yelling: "Santiago! Espana! a sangre, a carne, a fuego, a sacco" / "Saint James / St. Jacob! -him again! :O- Spain! murder, rape, fire, plunder" and that was exactly what they did. in 3 days time, they murdered approx. 7000 - 8000 men, women and children. invaded their homes, took their belongings, raped the women, bashed in their husband's heads, set the city hall on fire. the dogs were drinking blood on the streets.
even the wallonians and germans, initially defending the city, joined the party. although others say the wallonians fled. they stole 20 million worth of golden crowns (french coins). many had those made into armours, during the after party, and painted them black, to reveal they were made of gold).


on to the next war





RULE Britannia!

 



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and to the next.


for freedom



so stay awhile but spare a thought...











Canadian frigate
(more than 6,000 Canadians, AlsoKnownAs the Cinderella army, were either killed or wounded here )












on august 31st, we commemorated the Battle of the Scheldt, 75 years ago (in november). an event in Terneuzen was the kick-off to a year of celebrations to mark the 75th anniversary of the liberation of the Netherlands. Willem-Alexander invited mr. Trump to the party as well (but he hasn't been spotted). rumour went that Vlissingen didn't throw the party, because it couldn't afford it and Middelburg refused to pay a cent. while Zeeland-Flemish Terneuzen was eager to do the honours. the fierce Battle of the Scheldt was a turning point in WWII and paved the way for the liberation of the rest of the country.
but, again, this battle is little known.







a fleet review was part of the festivities and all ships, from 6 different countries, would pass Vlissingen between 12 am and 1 pm. we saw a couple of naval ships across the water and coming from every wrong direction, saw a brass band and heard the Flushing cannons roar to salute the allied fleet, long before there was a ship in sight, but, except for the Canadian HMSC St. John's, that was sailing back and forth, nothing worthwhile. as usual, we were not even surprised. later saw that US destroyer Ramage had spent the night here.











ancient dutch minesweeper


















Battle of the Scheldt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5GpRdJPc7w
(Flushing after 1min30s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOpIxtNi2UM
(Walcheren after 4min30s -breaching the dikes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIber1VFkn4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew9O-rOs7vM

Battle of the Scheldt -dutch site with many videos










waiting...




















safety first - no smoking















done waiting!

that huge thing on the right is btw the radar tower.
when a ship is approaching -from sea- through fairways
Galgeput or Sardijn, a bright yellow light is burning.






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Lot's of history there Ine. Nice continuing reportage!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote darosa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2019 at 13:09
On 17 September angora (Ine) and I, and Marjo, and our dogs Brody and Nina, had a mini meet at Hof Eindelienge, a biodynamic farm in Ritthem, Walcheren.

Ine posted pics of this farm before in this thread and she was so kind as to introduce us to the farmer and his wife, Leo and Mieke, and their beautiful horses. It was a great experience and we spent a few hours admiring the horses, the ploughing and talking with Leo about his passion for this way of farming which seems an anachronism but actually may be very modern!

Thank you Ine for making this possible. It was lovely to meet you again.

Time for some pics!

Ploughing in the year 2019, or, the beauty of biodynamic farming

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fred_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 September 2019 at 21:34
We've seen some of this form Ine before, but great to see it through your eyes Leo as well! #1, 3 and 4 are my favourites. TFS
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Post Options Post Options   Quote angora Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 September 2019 at 21:53
beautiful! love 'em all!! in particular #1 and the width and lines in #7. you caught Frida's eye! (#4). love it!
to be continued?

it was great to see y'all! a huge TY for the invite!
(did you shoot our unexpected company as well? ;-))


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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2019 at 07:42
Indeed a beautiful series Leo, great to see the "same" through different eyes, always interesting.

I also hadn't seen Ine's reportage from september 7, great series also! Impressive ships at or near the quay and nice candids.
Mind the bandwidth of others, don't link pictures larger then 1024 wide or 960 pix high, see here
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Thanks Fred, Ine and Pieter!

Ine: I had only eyes for the ploughman and his beauties!
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