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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snegren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2021 at 20:55
Ine, the 'your thread pollution' was to be taken with a pinch of salt. Glad I visited the Seamill, if only they would remove the Damen shed that crowds the background. I'm sure it spoils the best storm images, for instance from our famous admiral over the roaring sea with a long lens...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote angora Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 April 2021 at 14:08

so was mine, Paul. :) ;) but pretty serious about (this is not) 'my' thread. and, as always, hoping for more contributions?

Damen shed- I can think of other objects that need removal! (speaking of ...pollution! perhaps they'll blow away ?).






but Damen is not that bad, most certainly not the worst. and it won't ruin stormy pics. (as I will show you).
the Damen crane is about to vanish, for starters? and not too thrilled about that! ('our Vlissingen' used to be in between a jungle of cranes, serious cranes).
(they are about to build 'a dildo', as people called the design, highest high rise, a 97 meters tall uber polluter, on the former terrain of the shipyard. + many people trying to fight -dutch- the latest sky rocketing plans for 'grand (HUGE!) hotel' Brit on Boulevard Evertsen).

(speaking of... dildo- did you see what Dyxum did with my previous text? impressed! curious now what other foul language / [bad word]s as Dyxum called it, it is familiar with and will censor).

you've actually seen 'the best' of Vlissingen. Boulevard de Ruyter and Bellamypark uglified, but at least not beyond recognition. yet.
Koopmanshaven aka pilot harbour and fortifications still look familiar.





1950- near Michieltje, before the seawall was built
hotel Noordzeeboulevard -on the right- closed its doors in 1970.
the building was sold to the Belgian pilotage, big mistake!
demolished in 1977.    


stormy pics- SO tempting... but don't underestimate a severe storm on a dyke? (like the boulevards and Oranjedijk. when I came home as a child, I wouldn't dream of going through the front door. the moment you came around the corner of the Boulevard, knalde je zo weer naar beneden / you'd be back where you came from before you knew it. and the times I was almost blown off the small bridge over the Kom... ). often had visions of seamills and low angles, high waves + ships and sea foam, to very quickly change my mind on arrival. (and Vlissingen is a record-breaker when it comes to storms).







we usually gather in the shelter of the gate/passage underneath Michieltje and even there the sea will get you. it's not about the wind (sometimes cutting off your breath), it's about seawater splattering around or having your gear sandblasted, gazillions of salt crystals up in the air. thought of $$ underwater housing or a bag ?).












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after the storm...




(january 18, 2018)

















(except for the ugly roofs)- this was and is my town



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and the winner is...




(2012)


our 'Euromast' -anno 1993, 65 meters tall- doesn't actually bother me.
(which I can't say about the apartment building behind it or the colourful plastic fantastic 'pirates' all over the 1823 arsenal).
'progress' is not always a bad thing, as long as proportions and position are okay -ish?
and do think the small restaurant that replaced the old fish mine is a nice addition, a lovely place for a coffee, wine,    
overlooking the pilot harbour. (except when its sunshades are ruining pics).


statues + a roaring sea- we do have other heroes, like


Frans Naerebout, 1748 - 1818- pilot & life saver


do have pics of him (somewhere ), actually catching a boat
also on Boulevard de Ruyter:




de Bomvrije aka Gevangentoren / 'prisoners tower' alias 'the bomb free' aka de Westpoort / 'west gate'
remains of 1 of Flushing's city gates from 1485 - 1489
mermaid on top


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said I would show the FX of Damen in the BG on storm pics. and thus browsed the internet. I once saw a brilliant pic of the Oranjemolen / 'orange mill' engulfed by waves, almost what we are all after (in my dreams that is ). searched the whole internet, but can't find it anymore. thought I'd show you the runners up?


these are NOT my pics! just to illustrate what it means to be a seamill ...





here a.o. used more than once by Omroep Zeeland And others






'borrowed' here -see comments! glad I found a name- (and cropped it )
if my guess is right, this photog once owned 'foto de Grave' -2 of 6? Flushing (incl. 1 Souburg) camera stores-.
the Minolta specialist. bought my 8000i there + lenses & the rest ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$).
those were the days... luckily Vlissingen still has a camera store. 1 -since 1919-, 102 years old Verschoore.   

+
'these are the 10 best pics of the storm in Zeeland'
+
this + this + this + this + some ideas about spots -dutch-

whenever you feel courageous enough ...to risk your gear?



edit! forgot!
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https://zoom.nl/zoek/oranjemolen
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https://twitter.com/albertdrosphoto/status/1298878565036036096/photo/1

( https://www.albertdros.com/ )


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snegren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 April 2021 at 14:03
Seamill in storm is what I would dearly like to make Ine. Its only a 2 hr drive for me...
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figured you would, een nieuwe tak van sport? (forgive me?? ). (or did you know what we mean to use the thing for?).
+ another one found (which again is N O T MY PIC! )




signature deciphered as Chris Biesheuvel
but can't find a site- insta only
brilliant light and colours + not so brilliant waves


whether there or here... it would take some homework? since there are storms and storms. last storm was 1 month ago and remember my pityful snap ?
(since I was there anyway, no pilot boat in sight. but frankly- neighbour Koos goes to (the boulevard and) 'punt', -most southern part of Walcheren, across from the railway station + locks-, every day and this time came along. left the car for like 3 minutes or so. saw 1 splash before getting out). waves come in sequences. at sea we used to count them, couple of small ones before the big one hit.

the good thing about the better storm pics, is that it should be easy to find the dates. and times? (+ warnings- see text? wet trousers and shoes full of water ), thus specifications about that particular storm (windforce, squalls) + tide and wave heights. what do they have in common??? all wester storms? all spring tide?? the recipe should involve extremely high tide + winds coming from the right direction. strong swells, pref. longer than a day, could also help? ;) (directions- the Flushing boulevard is south facing. -the only south facing boulevard in the country. + Benelux. Northern Europe as well?- ).

Albert Dros nicely glued the waves together, but what I'm seeing is a windmill on a walled dyke behind boiling water. (what I'd like to see is a mill devoured by waves?).
you'd need the waves Vlissingen is famous for.




1950- © Dert




between 1900-1910- Dert




1905-1910- photog unknown




1906

we won't be seeing this anymore- the glooiing / seawall was built in 1958




approx. 1910- Dert

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1968- © Dert


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(aka 'the brewery' to some, since the Flushing archives -dutch- moved to Middelburg -dutch- )

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Flushing mooring bollard. inner harbour.


still have a question for y'all. about the mooring bollards along the Walcheren canal.
does anyone know or see what they are? what they were made for?







they come in 'all flavours' ;)





perhaps the other bank could be more revealing?







(does the 29mm Pentacon have swirl potential ? )







and practically giving the answer away...





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railway station (village of) Oost-Souburg
heading for Vlissingen








Souburg bridge
officially a monument -dutch-. anno 1869 - 1871, since they started (hand!) digging a canal in 1868. although the original was blown up by our retreating visitors on november 2, 1944 and beyond repair. replaced in 1947 by a 2nd hand bridge from Sluiskil. since 1978 no-go area for cars & motorbikes.
the Canal through Walcheren split the villages of Oost- and West- Souburg. (to be pronounced as 'Soeburg'. unless you are french   ).





















and more bollards... (on a gloomy -early- february day)


no one??

you either a) don't want to know what they were made for?
           b) couldn't care less?
           c) won't play silly games with me?
           d) won't answer stupid questions, since the answer is obvious?
           or wouldn't know??     

















path to Middelburg









1 more try 1 more hint?

# (think 'the hospitality' Flushing is famous for? ;))

# all from 1809 - 1812, 200+ years old   
# weight divers from 1466 kilograms (58) to 3525 kilograms (196 of them)
# made in Belgium
# Paul (aka Snegren) has recently shown us a mooring bollard that became redundant









railway station- direction Middelburg


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