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Post Options Post Options   Quote angora Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 April 2024 at 10:03
A-MA-ZING; TWO prezzies even! so happy for you! (I w/b over the moon!).
about a certain price- proves Getty sure knows how to count. :)
(and that they are s*ckers indeed, your thoughts ).
what else can they prove?

I for one know very little about copyright. I do know there are many people selling digtal copies of stuff that is no longer copyrighted, like antique maps, drawings, cards, paintings. the latter can be downloaded for free in hi-res from our national (Rijks-) museum, for instance. and since they are no longer copyrighted, it's completely legal to use and sell them.
check out any image bank, selling stock photos, and you'll find them! watermarked. at any price?
(long story 'short'- it turns out that a lot of digital content can be bought through the stock market from clever vendors. -amazingly good 'counters' among them-.
but the very same can also be obtained for free. IF you know where to get it).


as for photographs- copyright vanishes 70 years after the death of the photographer.
not sure about heirs.
in this case you'd have to wait a few more years ;) but if they are sold under the Getty flag- who is Getty?
(Getty! not Magnum or another serious agency).
and did the mentioned photog actually 'own' this photo?
were y'all actually posing? who paid the photog anyway?

suppose you decide to do something simular today. you go to a port, wait for the arrival of a -say- cruise ship and you start taking pics of people.
since you are a bit lazy, your 1st pic is taken from quite a distance and there are at least 500 people in it. some may be recognizable, but since you introduce yourself as a journalist and call it a 'journalistic' pic, you probably get away with it.
then you take a photo of two people and a toddler. which you cannot sell, unless your victims give you permission, meaning their autograph, for the toddler as well. without a signed model release, you are not allowed to sell your own photo. or any photo with a recognizable person in it. or sometimes even a building from a famous architect or anything Disney. etcetera?
image banks are very strict about that, trying to avoid anything that could get them into trouble.

if I were you or you w/b me, I would like to know who owns the copyright of these photographs, and why, 'thus' has the right to sell them for almost $500?


edit! copyright until 70 years after death I think it was? not 75.
which all c/b found on the internet of course. every rule + what has (not) changed?


Edited by angora - 04 April 2024 at 10:09
 



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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

A-MA-ZING; TWO prezzies even! so happy for you! (I w/b over the moon!).


(((these questions you pose below are what really interest me. The first photo looks to me as a set-up photo "posed".
Even the gangplank photo looks so perfect, like mannequins spaced evenly with all faces visible.

The main question I have, is your question. Who paid for the whole thing and why, and why us? Putting photos, like the Statue of Liberty photo, into school text books is quite a rigorous subject.
It would be embarrassing if the people in the school book turned out to be war criminals))) Yikes!


did they mentioned photog actually 'own' this photo?
were y'all actually posing? who paid the photog anyway?


edit! copyright until 70 years after death I think it was? not 75.
which all c/b found on the internet of course. every rule + what has (not) changed?


Thank you Angora, Thats quite a dissertation on copyright. You do know a lot, much more than me ha ha. Took me a while to digest it all.
I didn't know getty was such a piranha, eating up every dollar it can in such a blood thirsty way. Their business model seems to work, they are the go-to store for images in the US.

If they want to go after me for sharing images of myself with family to friends and family, for non profit---Screw them! I've never been to an image bank, so what do I know.

I learned a lot. Once again, thank you Angora
Josef
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