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    Posted: 18 January 2019 at 12:58
I have just bought, not yet received, what I believe to be a pristine kit. It has the rare leather briefcase, tripod stand, flash, camera, and three lenses. Only accessory it doesnít have is the grip.

I have never held one of these in my hand. Iíd like to know how to check the camera for any problems it might have been known to have. Also any advice on the value of this kit would be much appreciated. I do recall seeing the briefcase for sale one time awhile ago. The guy wanted $500 for it, saying that it is extremely hard to find.

Iím considering keeping it, but I have not shot film in a very long time and wonder if I ever will.   From a collectorís standpoint, Iíd like to keep it. But Iím also tempted to trade for A-mount gear, or sell it.

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I'd imagine the lenses would be worth quite a bit.

The camerapedia entry: http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Minolta_CLE mentions a couple of common faults.

I think Manfred (Maffe) had a CL or CLE at one time - he might be able to give you some insights.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2019 at 14:01
I've never used one but it seems a lovely little camera. I would certainly put a roll of film through it and look at the results. You only need to have it developed, the rest can be taken care of digitally (scanning, PP, printing...)

Do you know if it's the original M-Rokkor glass with it, I think they had a 28 mm, a 40 mm and a 90 mm, all developed together with Leitz and optically very good. They're easily adapted on E-mount, but for A-mount you're out of luck.

Here in Europe the camera and the three original lenses together in working order would be several 100 more than 500$ you're saying, even without the briefcase. Obviously this also depends on condition and the lenses that come with it.
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Yes the lenses are the originals. Everything is together as a kit, in the fitted case... camera, lenses, flash, tripod. All original to the CLE system.

The briefcase I saw for $500 awhile ago was the very same the one I have coming. He was selling just the briefcase for $500! Apparently itís a real hens tooth.

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I own the Leitz-Minolta CL with the Rokkor-M 40/2. Bought it new around 1978. Since then I bought a used Rokkor-M 28/2.8 and I also use the Leica Tele-Elmarit 90/2.8. While I shoot film infrequently, this is a really nice combo. The CLE offers a number of advances on the CL, especially the frame lines for the 28mm and aperture preferred exposure.

If you want to shoot film, it's a great way to keep the weight down and get really good results. If you decide to sell, it's possible you'd do better selling it piece by piece, rather than as a kit. The 40/2 and 28/2.8 are highly desirable used with adapters on a mirrorless body, and command high prices, depending on condition.

Me, I'd keep it, but I keep everything...
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A neat little M-mount camera and the three M-Rokkors are marvellous, too; also when adapted on a digital camera.
And the price you had to pay for this complete kit is a bargain, here in Europe nowadays you might get the body only. The lenses are not cheap either, rare items and actually hard to find second hand.
Keep and enjoy this CLE kit

The CLE uses an electronic shutter and metering (in A-mode) is displayed via red LED shutter-speed indicators and scale in the finder once the touch-switch shutter button is touched, thus batteries (2x 1V5 button cells) are essential otherwise camera is dead.
Mind that in manual exposure mode there is no LED meter indication!
There's a battery check button on the bottom plate and if battery voltage is ok the red LED above the main power switch on the front will light up.

If it still has original (or old) light seals then most likely these are sticky and should be replaced with new ones.

Also from the three lenses, expect that the M-Rokkor 28/2.8 will exhibit some white spots around the black painted side rim of the front lens element. And in severe cases there even might be additional small white dots/points (spotting corrosion) on the rear-side of the front element. This is a well known defect of the 28mm M-Rokkor!
The bigger the spots, the most likely you will see ghosting effects, flare and less contrast. But in case the white spots are on the outside edges of the front element only, there should not be any noticeable negative effect.
The 90/4 and 40/2 do not have this problem and glass should be clear and perfect.
All three of these little M-mount lenses even produce excellent results when adapted on an a7 series camera.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote mirthseeker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2019 at 02:06
Wow, what a bargain! I imagine you might have mentioned if it was a gold one?
One thing to note - the instruction manual cautions not to put the camera away with the shutter cocked.
I imagine you have read all the reviews - surprisingly, Ken Rockwell's is quite informative.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote macronut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2019 at 03:05
Some confusion here. I did not mention what I paid for this kit. $500 is what Iíve seen just the briefcase listed for. I didnít score this kit quite so cheap
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