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    Posted: 13 June 2022 at 23:43
I'm off on a charity walk of the Yorkshire 3 peaks in a few weeks and along with getting my snacks and hydration right, I'm also looking at the camera gear. At 25 miles (38km) and 1,600 metres (5,200ft) of ascent in 12 hours, this is going to be the lightest I've ever packed - I'm notorious in my family for lugging several bodies and 5-6 lenses around with me, mostly because with two young kids, there isn't too much walking going on.

I dislike standard zooms, but have picked up a Tamron 28-200 for this trip. So far I'm impressed with its performance. Not quite as wide as I'd like, but admirable performance throughout the zoom range. Given it'll be just past midsummer when we go, even across 12 hours, we'll be setting off several hours after sunrise and several hours before sunset, so low light performance handheld isn't a concern.

So my current quandary is actually about bodies - infrared converted A7R or standard body A7RIII (preferring the this over the A9 for increased resolution). I am incredibly tempted to go IR because the scenery is going to be stunning, but the light less so. But after a practice hike up Box Hill at the weekend, there's only so much candy floss trees and contrasty B&W processing one can deal with.

So my choice is from...

A7R Infrared converted (590nm or 720nm filter)
A7Riii
Tamron 28-200
Sony 16-35 f4

I'd love to take all four, but I did that for Box hill at the weekend and I really need to strip back. Could at a push take 3 of the 4.

So what would people recommend? And I'd be particularly keen to hear from anyone who has done the Yorkshire 3 peaks or other day time hill hiking.
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I'd be taking the A7riii and 16-35 mm, but whichever you decide I can't wait to see the results. I have climbed all three, I was born at Pateley Bridge, Nidderdale at the end of WW2 and it was a boxing day tradition to climb Whernside which was at the head of the dale - weather permitting. From memory there was nothing steep just a long steady slog and of the three I think Peny-ghent was the hardest, long long time ago though and I'm sure access has been much improved, nothing dangerous like the Lake District where we lost a family friend. The views from all three are great and I just hope the weather obliges, good luck...
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I feel an ultra-wide is superfluous on hikes, I would just take the Tamron 28-200. 28mm is wide enough in the great outdoors and the 200mm is really nice for big landscapes.

If you like the converted body, bring it. But I wouldn't as you probably will not change lenses.

I can't help you on the Yorkshire 3-peaks.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 June 2022 at 08:03
I have no experience on that sort of hiking myself, but just couple weeks ago, I saw a YouTube video on hiking those three peaks by landscape photographer Thomas Heaton (and his friend).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tricky01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2022 at 21:25
Thanks for your thoughts. I took both cameras and both lenses on a practice hike up Old Winchester hill in Hampshire on Tuesday which didn't make anything clearer! I did swap out the 590nm filter for the 720nm on the A7R though and much prefer the more contrasty images. I think probably leaning towards the A7R. I tend to agree with you addy that ultra wide is superfluous on hikes, especially when the landscape is so open, though there do also seem to be a few little waterfalls when the 16-35 would be useful. Can't help but think I'm going to end up taking both
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25 miles in 12 hours is more than I'd want to do on the flat. I'd minimise to one body, one lens. If the 28-200 is good enough you can always go wider occasionally by stitching.

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Well, I survived the 3 peaks, and thought I should follow up in case someone else has a similar question in the future. I am very proud to have completed it in 11 hours and 59 minutes (running the last 5-10 minutes to get back under 12 - still not sure how I did that). I decided to stick to just the 28-200 tamron but take both A9 and A7R, snuggly secured in the Tenba 10 I'd bought especially. We left the hotel at 5:30 am and it was when we headed out into the car park it dawned on my how horrible the weather was. You know that really wet kind of rain. We had a 20 minute drive to get to the start point, in which time I worked my way through numerous weather apps, all of which confirmed this weather was set to continue all day.

It was at this point I did something I've never done before. I decided not to take the photography gear. The prospect of lugging it all around with zero opportunity to use it was too depressing, so reluctantly decided to leave in the car as we arrived at the start line and huddled under a tree for the briefing from our guides and proceeded with just the iPhone camera


Within 30 minutes I was already regretting my decision. As we went up towards Pen-y-ghent, the skies began to clear and we had our first rainbow...



And that's how the next 4-5 hours panned out, amazing rolling clouds letting light filter through across the stunning landscape all around...







Around 5 hours in we stopped briefly for lunch near the Ribblehead viaduct, where a few friends were waiting with water to top us up. As we would be rendezvousing with them again, I decided to ask them kindly to fetch the camera bag so I could have it for the final peak. We then carried on towards Whernside and the pleasing light continued...



and we quickly came across an impressive waterfall that the iPhone camera really couldn't do justice



After so many dry hours we got bombarded as we got higher up Whernside...



But once we reached the top, the rain cleared and views - and light - were outstanding





More rain...


and then more dramatic skies (and our final peak in sight)


We then had our meeting before tackling the third and final peak - Ingleborough - and I finally had my camera in hand. And of course the weather changed, and it remained either wet or overcast with little of the drama of earlier in the day, but following photos now back on the A9...



As I reflected on the day, I was immensely proud of completing the challenge. It was tough, and I am not a hiker - the furthest I've walked being probably 6-7 miles before I started preparing for this. And I have a suspicion I probably would have dropped out on after the 2nd peak when others from our group did if I'd had my cameras. I probably would have been too focused on taking photos (the scenery and light was beautiful), and not enough focusing on the main task at hand.

Would I do the three peaks again? I don't think so. I'm proud I've done it, but if in the area again, I'd probably just do one peak and take the photography gear and accompanying photography pace we're all familiar with. It's also been a great way to take them all in and decide which I'd want to revisit with the camera. In fact, the following day I decided to walk the first 3 miles (and back) from the viaduct up towards Whernside to revisit the waterfall. I spent a good hour taking my time and enjoying the photography challenge.

So to revisit my original question on what gear to take on the three peaks challenge - don't. Take the phone to take snaps (and a usb pocket charger to keep it powered), and focus on the task in hand. If just doing one peak, I think I would still take the A7R (in case it's too bright), A9 (for the weather sealing), 16-35 and 28-200, along with a light tripod and filters. But that's only if I'm doing it for the photography.
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