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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snegren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 October 2021 at 11:44
Originally posted by Idleidolidyll Idleidolidyll wrote:

Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

The Laowa can also be used without the shift converter


Looks like a well designed lens with little to no distortion. Obviously any wide angle will give converging verticals when tilted upward but the straight lines are still very linear.

I have 3 Laowa lenses and love them! (15mm f4 Shift/Macro 1:1, 60mm f2.8 2:1 Macro, 105mm f2 T3.2 STF)
I keep looking at the Laowa 12mm f/2.8 Zero-D mainly because of the Magic Shift Converter.
My 15mm has a little shift (+/- 6mm rise and fall but only in horizontal mode). That allows me to correct converging verticals with horizontal shots but also to make bigger stitched images. Using Microsoft ICE, I can get almost a square image from FF (about 36x36mm with my A7R).

Have you used it like that?

I just looked at the 12mm f/2.8 Zero-D on the Laowa website and I see it is available in A-Mount. That would mean I could use it with my Mirex tilt/shift adapter and use it on my Alpha 7 film camera AND Sony A7R with a nice tight Sony adapter. That would allow as much shift as I could desire (Mirex has +/- 15mm) within the image circle but I'd also get the benefit of tilt (10 degrees). That makes it a more viable option


I have not used it for stitching. The shift adapter works on the 12mm because the adapter is a 1.4x tele converter. If the 12 mm is used as a 17 mm there is room for shift, if you use it as a 12 mm you cannot shift as it has a normal image circle.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 October 2021 at 20:14
A few more shots before we do Dordrecht II next sunday


peg23: The sling of the crane you see in dop3, FS13 and S21.
Ships could only be lifted out of the water on one side to make any required repairs.



peg24: Fasteners galore



peg 25: my version of the Simca steel



peg26: Rectalinear ultra WA's give long legs and oval wheels



peg27: Paul, trying to hide behind a bollard



peg28: Fred, enjoying live-view for the framing of this shot


23, 27 & 28: A7Rii + Tamron FE28-200 Di III RXD
24 & 25: A7ii + OM Zuiko 135/2.8
26: A7ii + Tamron FE20/2.8 Di III OSD
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FS-46 The wider view on the lift in Peg23



I can't recall what I was shooting in peg28 , but I certainly enjoyed the fully tiltable screen of the A99ii

I am considering to make next Sunday in Dordrecht a Rokkor day.
That will be without this practical screen then
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 October 2021 at 20:46
Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

I am considering to make next Sunday in Dordrecht a Rokkor day.
That will be without this practical screen then
I'll just keep it a "oktoberfest day" with maybe one or two more lenses.

And the screen of the A7Rii is not as flexible as the A99ii, but for a position as you were pictured here still usable (further below the top of the body rather than above it)
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More fish!

13 Power to the people, 2017, Johan Moorman


14 Walls are closing in on me


15 The atrium


16 Antique gear


17 Covid? No, just after the rain.


18 Restoration Antiques Curiosities
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Born in Den Helder, so I love fish
I appreciate your 'subtle' use of it.
#17 is a masterpice!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2021 at 20:40
I agree on 17, both composition and monochrome conversion is very well done!

And I offer you "the making of darosa's 16", then you can judge how close you need to be to the subject for such a wide view with a 12 mm fisheye

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And this is how it looks with the 16-35mm at FL of 20mm

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Post Options Post Options   Quote darosa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2021 at 23:54
Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Born in Den Helder, so I love fish
I appreciate your 'subtle' use of it.
#17 is a masterpice!
TFS Leo


I'm a schollekop from Scheveningen so we can shake hands Fred :-)
Thanks, I'm glad you like my 17!
Your 43 is a stunner!

I quite like your and Pieter's night shots. The green bridges/canals are spectacular.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dopol Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 October 2021 at 11:35
2 last shots before the next DDM (DyxumDordrechtMeeting)

Steamy window (to some)


just before all kinds of photographers started sneaking around

and some remarks

leo: your deserted terrace is great 9and so are 18 and (particularly) 13 (that I had totally missed
all: and so are the different angles on Antique gear en its photographer
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken
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Post Options Post Options   Quote darosa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 October 2021 at 00:13
Originally posted by Dopol Dopol wrote:

2 last shots before the next DDM (DyxumDordrechtMeeting)

Steamy window (to some)

leo: your deserted terrace is great 9and so are 18 and (particularly) 13 (that I had totally missed


Love the Steamy Window; I have one of red dress of the Bridal Room, somehow I didn't post it (yet)!

Thanks Domien! You have a 2nd chance tomorrow! :-)

19 Warehouses


20 La vache qui rit


a7rii + Samyang 1:2.8 12mm ED AS NCS Fish-Eye


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Thanks everybody, nice to see 9 other faces behind names here.

I've been looking through my pictures of today so you won't find very much from me.

Hope to see beautiful shots from the others .
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Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:

Thanks everybody, nice to see 9 other faces behind names here.

I've been looking through my pictures of today so you won't find very much from me.

Hope to see beautiful shots from the others .


It was a lovely day indeed! Thanks all for your company.
Hopefully you droev home safely.

I have started the thread for the pictures here.
No need to be hestistant Harm, just post some of your work. It's always a pleasure to see all the different views from a group of photographers at the same place.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote darosa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 October 2021 at 21:06
My last shot of Dordrecht 1.0:

21 The woman in red

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