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Btw, I don't think Pentax had the K mount in the 1960's, they stayed very long with M42 (that's why we still see so many great M42 takumars today), I think it wasn't until the mid 70's that their M42 mounts were replaced by a bayonet mount, much after a lot of other SLR brands. The Minolta SR mount (just looked it up) was already introduced in 1958
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... I will have missed some ...

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Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

... the Minolta Vectis mount, that was different again from the other Minolta mounts, but not very widespread.


I had a Dimage something with some lenses - it was horrible
and a Canon IXUS (elph)

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Pentax K-mount was 1975.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Pentax K-mount was 1975.

horrah, there is a format I never used!
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Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

... I will have missed some ...

some?
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Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

... I will have missed some ...

some?


oh, a challenge!?

um, I think there is a hasselblad digital mount???

and Leica have three (?) current digital mounts?
if jewellery manufacturers count
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Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:


oh, a challenge!?

um, I think there is a hasselblad digital mount???

and Leica have three (?) current digital mounts?
if jewellery manufacturers count
Oh no, not a challenge. They are located here

Digital mounts in the 1960's, never knew that they were so old
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Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:


I can't believe you've both missed where we started , Minolta !

Granted SR mount not A mount , and that's just the bayonet mount .
L39 rangefinder cameras were also made by Minolta around that time .
Touché, I didn't notice dCap missed it so didn't include it in my list, I can probably hide behind "to name a few" allthough I realise it's a pretty weak cop-out . How about the Minolta Vectis mount, that was different again from the other Minolta mounts, but not very widespread.


Vectis was doomed to failure , APS was a solution looking for a problem that didn't exist .
I have all the lenses , both cameras , the digital Dimage RD3000 ,the A mount lens to V mount body and the Vectis lens to Sony E mount body .
Their quite a nice set up , but Canon had the better idea with APS SLRs by sticking with EF mount .

Mind you , all this was in the 90's , not the 60's as per dcap's post .
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my post was meant to be more about today's digital formats - and the current and new cameras ... like will Canon/Nikon stop putting out new entry level dSLR and just keep one pro/birder/wedding top end camera. I think both Canon and Nikon's top of the line APS body is more expensive than their entry FF (dSLR). Will Canon/Nikon push entry APS dSLR users towards mirrorless? Or will they keep making stuff for 4 systems each?

I know people still buy old film cameras and manual focus FD nd AIS lenses but film as a format doesn't need a great deal of support. And it is a niche thing too. Collectors and nostalgia trips. And some of the cameras were superb.

APS got killed by digital too. So bad timing as much as anything. The storage of the film cassettes was quite clever. And scanning them was simple too. But smaller format has and is still an issue to some people. That said APS probably sells more cameras than FF. Not sure what the driver was for this, was it the ability to scan via a cassette and scan unit? It was rather short lived though.

Little pocket IXUS (elph) was quite popular I think as it was a stand alone project and made the compact tiny. That is the only camera I remember liking in APS.

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Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

my post was meant to be more about today's digital formats - and the current and new cameras ...
I know, but my reaction was more to the post where you mentioned the short list of mounts in the 1960's. I made that short list a little longer (life was probably as complicated "mount-wise" then as it is today) and the subsequent discussion revealed that we both forgot to mention Minolta SR in the 60's list and that Pentax K wasn't born yet in the 60's but only came out in the mid 70's.

I think lots of mounts are of all times and the two mount consortia haven't been able to change that (yet).

Back to today's digital world, with regard to entry level vs. advanced APS-C I think we'll start seeing less and less entry level cameras as phones get more capable cameras. Our three childeren don't use cameras anymore, they find phones much handier. Good enough quality for them and immediately able to share on social media. That is eating large chunks out of the camera business and manufacturers need to concentrate on where the remaining market is for their cameras and in my opinion that's for the advanced amateurs and professionals. I have no idea what brands will survive this battle, I hope a lot (choice is good) but I won't be surprised if a couple go under.
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I can see Nikon and Canon pushing people towards mirror less APSC cameras and phasing out completely APSC DSLRS in the next five or six years , maybe a bit sooner .
The pro-grade DSLRs maybe having no more than ten years .
But it all depends on how soon mirror less technology takes to outdo DSLRs in all aspects .
To be honest , it's nearly there now , barring people's preferences.

Canon will probably lose the M mount within the next couple of years and have just the one mount .

Pentax will probably still be struggling .......

m4/3 ?    Who knows .

Edit , forgot to add ; Sony A mount ?
Just be gratefull if we get a mk iii 77 & 99 !

Let's face it , we've been on borrowed time ever since the NEX 3 & 5 came out !

Edited by neilt3 - 15 June 2020 at 19:16
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[QUOTE=dCap] yep, I mention mounts and formats in the text (not in the title though)
and yes - in the 1960s kind of time there were less '35mm' mounts - say Nikon F, Canon FD, Pentax, and maybe Olympus OM - plus Leica. But pretty much all the same film size. Minor half-frame excursions and medium format for the studio.

Oh, no!!! You missed out Miranda!
Arguably the best-made Japanese camera system in the 1960s, with some of the best lenses, but the mount evolved several times to include aperture preview, full-aperture metering, and so on.
But the interesting thing was Miranda deliberately chose a very short flange distance so you could fit almost any other lens on the camera. The advantage of that disappeared as soon as everyone started putting their own different bits and pieces to add functionality, but you can still fit almost every FF lens onto a Miranda body with the right adapter and have it focus on infinity.

E-mount offers the same virtue, now, with much more space to adapt the bells and whistles.
Miranda F & Sensorex, Sony A7Rii, A58, Nex-6, Dynax 4, 5, 60, 500si/600si/700si/800si, various Sony & Minolta lenses, several Tamrons, lots of MF primes and *far* too many old film cameras ...
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