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awa54
Groupie Joined: 03 November 2008 Country: United States Location: VT USA Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 February 2014 at 17:52 |
As travelshots says, the biggest issues for us digital users are light transmission, flatness of the pass-band and flare resistance. So if you were using these filters with film the ranking would be relevant, but for digital the pass-band light transmission is far more important than the UV suppression... although a stop-band hinge point that impedes on the visible spectrum is a detriment here, so filters with a crisp roll-off that starts as close to the bottom of the visible spectrum as possible are most desirable: http://www.hoyafilter.com/hoya/products/generalfilters/uv0/ note the Hoya UV(C) which starts to roll at a lower wavelength than the other filters, this one is undoubtedly a "for Digital" filter. Now for a thread hijack; have any of you noticed different color rendition or white balance response when you switch from skylight (slight warming) filters to straight up UV cut or clear protective filters? I just made a complete conversion from HMC SKY 1(B) filters to HMC UV(C), but haven't been out shooting since the change over. I am hoping that the approximately 1/3 stop light transmission gain in the visible spectrum will be the only change (and a positive one!). So don't regret the Kenko or Heliopan UV filter purchases, unless you still shoot film that is ;) |
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shiny "new" a900 with 35/1.4, 50/1.4, 85/1.4, 100/2, 200/2.8 and 28-135/4-4.5 (plus a huge stack of other less-used Maxxum glass)
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awa54
Groupie Joined: 03 November 2008 Country: United States Location: VT USA Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 February 2014 at 18:11 |
Don't you want the extra 9% light to reach your sensor/film? having a filter with low light transmission is like using a neutral density filter, except that most of the lousy UV filters are also un-coated, which adds to flare susceptibility... a double whammy :P |
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shiny "new" a900 with 35/1.4, 50/1.4, 85/1.4, 100/2, 200/2.8 and 28-135/4-4.5 (plus a huge stack of other less-used Maxxum glass)
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Saber
Groupie Joined: 26 November 2011 Country: United States Location: Arizona Status: Offline Posts: 146 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 February 2014 at 18:40 |
I've been using B+W 007 Nano's on both my ZA 135 and my new ZA 50, and before that my Leica primes (wish like hell I never sold them). I haven't noticed any issues so maybe I'm just not realizing the potential that going without a filter may offer. However, given the price of these damn lenses I refuse to go without frontal protection. On the streets of Italy people bump into you all the time so the chances of your front element getting whacked is pretty high. Anyway, I'm willing to lose a little bit of light transmission, if for nothing else, peace of mind.
Now, if somebody knows of a better filter that provides the same quality of Nano coat that offers less light blocking properties then I'm all ears. Edited by Saber - 16 February 2014 at 18:48 |
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addy landzaat
Senior Member Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 15487 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 February 2014 at 18:48 |
Wow, this thread is almost five years old.....
Anyway, if on the streets of Italy people bump into you all the time so the chances of your front element getting whacked is pretty high, you should use your lenshood, not a filter |
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Saber
Groupie Joined: 26 November 2011 Country: United States Location: Arizona Status: Offline Posts: 146 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 February 2014 at 18:54 |
Andy,
Since I love the Dutch people (used to live/work there) I will try not to be rude, but it's hard to shoot through my lens cover. Yes, I know I can always take it off, but I typically lose a lot of shots or run a higher risk when I reach down to the ground to pick up the cap when I drop it (happens a lot with me). Being a European, you know that in public people are up closer and more personal than they are in the west, so seldom will anyone yield to allow you to stop for even one second! Edited by Saber - 16 February 2014 at 19:10 |
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p-unit
Groupie Joined: 09 October 2010 Country: United States Location: US, MN Status: Offline Posts: 52 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 March 2014 at 19:18 |
Thanks for this tip! I'm heading to Italy soon and hadn't even thought about that fact! Lens hood it is! |
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CuriousOne
Senior Member Joined: 10 September 2012 Country: Georgia Location: home Status: Offline Posts: 642 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 October 2014 at 08:32 |
Recently bought from ebay this FOTGA (It was listed and pictured as NEEWER, but identical FOTGA arrived) filter:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191303585220?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Below is the photo without the filter: And here's photo with filter: Filter was checked, cleaned and so on. But it is initially not transparent enough - difference can be seen by bare eye, looking through it. My ancient Soligor 77mm UV filter delivers much better results! |
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lonewolf
Senior Member Joined: 21 July 2014 Country: Australia Location: Perth Status: Offline Posts: 1003 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 February 2015 at 15:28 |
so Hoya HMC UV would be fine for just protection/ease of cleaning?
Are there fakes of these online? Hard to judge but will go for an ebay seller with good rating and average price |
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a7iii, 200-600, 28 F2, 85 F1.8 + lots of Nikon stuff
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Miranda F
Senior Member Joined: 11 January 2014 Country: United Kingdom Location: Bristol Status: Offline Posts: 4074 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 September 2015 at 19:49 |
At the risk of stating the obvious, adding a UV filter gives you two more air-glass interfaces without any appreciable optical benefit (and clearly isn't a good choice for this kind of scene anyway). Not something I'd do unless the filter served some important function (ND, CPL, or protection against sandstorms), and even then it would need to have the best multi-coatings for use in bright conditions. I mainly use ND/CPL when there *aren't* many flare sources in view. And on another point, so-called sky filters (1B) came into fashion while I was taking slide pictures and I hated them. They turned the skies pink. |
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Miranda F & Sensorex, Sony A7Rii, A58, Nex-6, Dynax 4, 5, 60, 500si/600si/700si/800si, various Sony & Minolta lenses, several Tamrons, lots of MF primes and *far* too many old film cameras ...
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Eclipse
Senior Member Joined: 13 February 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Posts: 1793 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 October 2016 at 20:50 |
Just picked up on this thread when about to start one with this query:
I have just taken the plunge (gulp) and got a 70-400Gii. Now I understand this lens has some very fancy new Nano AR lens coatings. Due to the conditions I shoot in a protective filter is an absolute requirement*. In film days I used skylights, on digital I have gone over to UV filters (I use Heliopan UV-0 SH-PMCs). Can anyone help me re what type of filter might be best for this particular lens? *e.g. on one occasion, when using a new filter for first time it got a nice little chip in it from grit thrown up by horse's hooves - just glad it wasn't the lens. |
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addy landzaat
Senior Member Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 15487 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 October 2016 at 20:59 |
Why UV? There was some use for it in the film era with uncoated lenses, but these days there is no need for UV filters. I would use clear (protective) filters.
Any good make of filter will suffice, heliopans are among those. |
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Eclipse
Senior Member Joined: 13 February 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Posts: 1793 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 October 2016 at 21:11 |
I suppose I'm just used to using them and assumed they were the right thing...I will look into clear ones, thank you for the suggestion.
Edit- I use heliopans because I like the brass rings, and them having threads both sides. The brass means they don't bind like the aluminium ones, which matters to me as I don't take them off much - only if I have to put a polariser on. Aluminium ones seem to bind badly if on for a long time.... Edited by Eclipse - 31 October 2016 at 21:14 |
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stiuskr
Moderator Group Joined: 01 September 2006 Country: United States Location: West Virginia Status: Offline Posts: 11489 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 October 2016 at 21:15 |
I'd get the Sony, if it's anything like their c-pol's it'll be Schott glass and comes in a really nice clam shell case.
http://www.adorama.com/isovf77mp.html Edited by stiuskr - 31 October 2016 at 21:18 |
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Rob Suits Jr.
a99M2 a99 a77 a700 KM7D|Min24/2.8 Min35/2 So50/1.4 So50/2.8 Min85/1.4G Tam90/2.8 Tam180/3.5|Tam17-50 CZ24-70G2 KM28-75D So70-200G1 So70-300G So70-400G1| SonyF60 AD200R2 |
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whiteheat
Senior Member Joined: 26 September 2011 Country: Australia Location: Altona Meadows Status: Offline Posts: 974 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 October 2016 at 22:30 |
Well, a quick search yielded these. Caution, the last two links are to "pro" grade filter reviews (and therefore wallet draining $$$ should you be tempted), which if you are susceptible to GAS, could be dangerous to you. Though how much value they actually represent is open to serious question: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/reviews/filter-reviews.aspx http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-camera-lens-filters-flashes-and-accessories-for-taking-great-photos/ http://www.lenstip.com/113.1-article-UV_filters_test.html http://bestgr9.com/list-top-10-best-camera-uv-filter-in-2015-reviews/ http://the-gadgeteer.com/2014/11/19/breakthrough-photography-x1-x2-and-x3-uv-filters-review/ http://digital-photography-school.com/review-vu-professional-filter-system/ |
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