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    Posted: 05 August 2022 at 14:10
Hiya Folks

It's been a while since I've regularly been coming back to the forum.

I've had my A55 and A700 for quite a while but it went quiet for quite a while. Recently I've got back into photography, and then; My Neice borrowed my A55.

That may never return. It left me with the A700 and at an event it revealed how 'tired' and worn it was and how many of the features of the A55 I got to like. Including the tilt/move VF screen and the level meter in camera. But I found rotary switches that jumped larger settings than than it should or that it reset the values completely.

It also seemed to capture quite better quality images. Or perhaps more that as it was a better sensor as I got better images. Also with the VF screens I was able to better and far easier see if I had underexposed images.

And so I did a bit of digging.

I've now ended up with a Sony A77mk2.

As most of my lenses were APS-C, and my newest low light lens was that, I thought it best to stick with that. I'll have to check but it seems the new lense I got with this new A77ii are actually FF lenses.

It came with a Sigma 50mm f/1.4 and a Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 lens.

The differnce between the FF and APS is worth noting and considering if I do go up to the A7 FF camera, but I'm quite happy with the A lens series. I don't think I can justify the cost in the upgrade, plus it would mean the interchangability of lenses with my neice will be lost.

My Sister in Law also took to the camera quite happily too, so I think that could be counted as a permanent home lol. They have my 18-200 for now.

I am sure at some stage my neice would get into macro and, oh, this 70-200 is also a macro lens....

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Welcome back!

Enjoy the A77II. I should sell mine as it has just been sitting on the shelf. It is a good camera.

I haven't used either of those lenses, but I am sure they are very good but certainly heavy. You might look to add the A77 kit zoom the DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM which is quite nice. I didn't care for the old 18-200, but perhaps I just had a poor example.

Edited by QuietOC - 05 August 2022 at 14:41
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I think any lens that is gonna be an f/2.8 down to f/1.4 is going to be heavy by comparison. The one I've been using for a particular event recently was the 18-35 f/1.8 and that was very nice but had limited range. It will be interesting to see what I can get with the 70-200 ;)

But I'm not a professional and only do it becuase I like photography.

Another option is to do more exercise and get fitter so I can not feel the heavy lenses as much.

A quick test has shown that my Sony 56 Flash does still work in wireless mode but not on the camera, as it's a different shoe.

Oh well.
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Ah, yes, the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8. I never got around to trying that lens. Very nice.

There are hot shoe adapters both Sony branded and third-party. I haven't used them.

I've bought one of the new Sony flashes designed for the mirrorless bodies. I was going to learn it last month during the Classical Subjects Challenge here, but I didn't.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote glefebvre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 August 2022 at 18:39
I picked up an A77ii to replace my A700 a while ago. Nice camera with a more modern sensor and all the bells an whistles of the newer A-series cameras. I also picked up the Sony 16-105 f/3.5-5.6 DT lens. It fairly small and light weight with a good focal range. To my eye, the images look good on the A77ii as well as the KM 7D.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 August 2022 at 07:24
Originally posted by Saratoga Saratoga wrote:

Another option is to do more exercise and get fitter so I can not feel the heavy lenses as much.


Nice camera, competent AF system, good sensor. Love the articulated screen. The 16-50 is a good option it you want a f/2.8 lens - it is a heavier then the 18-200 ((577g / 405g) but about the same size.
If you want a more do-it-all lens, take a look at the 18-135, a really capable lens, like mine.

re. the 16-105: if it is cheaper then the 18-135, yeah, why not. It seems to me the 18-135 is a little bit more refined.
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The 16-80 is another nice option if the weight of the 16-50 is an issue.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote neilt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 August 2022 at 11:42
I started with the CZ 16-80mm on my a100 then a580 .
Over the years the manual focus clutch started to give out , the balsam on the front elements got the spots ( separation or fungus ) then the AF gave out . All common faults with that lens .
Apart from that , it was a great lens !   
Most of the images taken on the a100 and a580 within that range were taken with it , untill I used it on the a77ii which finished it off.

I tried a 16-105mm lens but it was clearly decentred , so focus asides , I preferred the images including colour and contrast from the CZ 16-80mm more than it
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When I got the a77ii I also picked up the 16-50mm f/2.8 .
It's a good lens for low light , but a fairly short range .

I then picked up the Sony 18-135mm lens and it's a great match for that camera .
18mm is generally wide enough for me and the 135mm is a big bonus .
Image quality is more than satisfactory and the aperture range does what I need .
On the a100 where ISO 400 was pushing it , the lens needed the bit extra aperture , on the a77ii even ISO 3200 is more useable than the a100's 400 , so large aperture isn't as important other than for DOF control .
But for that I have primes .

So if your looking for a walk around lens to go with the a77ii , I would highly recommend the 18-135mm .
If I want faster lenses I tend to use primes , though I do still have the 16-50mm f/2.8 in case I need a fast zoom with the Minolta 80-200mm f/2.8 on a full frame camera .

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I picked up an 18-135 to use as a walk around lens on my A77ii in place of my old Tamron 17-50 2.8. I like the versatility of the extra range. As a bonus, it pairs quite nicely with my new A6600 and Laea5 adapter. This is going to be my go-to walking/hiking combo for an upcoming trip to Yellowstone. The trusty old A77ii will be used with my 70-400G as my ever-available wildlife set-up while driving through the park.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Saratoga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 August 2022 at 12:30
There sounds like to be some interesting lenses in this thread that have been mentioned.

At the moment I canít justify buying another lens, however a check to my collection has proved that if I do want to go full frame, then I have enough lenses to cope.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2022 at 01:24
I would think there to be a greater concern as to weather you shoot RAW or JPEG.
I've never had a problem with any of the DT lenses 16-50mm, 16-80mm, 16-105mm or 18-135mm with the exception of a touch of vignetting wide open. I personally use the 16-50mm on my a77, the 16-80mm on my a77II. For reasons that are my own I shoot RAW+JPEG with a Neutral, Deep or Portrait creative style depending on subject. What I dislike about the DT lenses is the complicated lens distortion with the RAW files, which is nonexistent with the full frame Minolta lenses. The image processor handles it fairly well in camera for the JPEG's but the RAW's are problematic.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2022 at 03:46
FWIW: Sony has been embedding the distortion correction parameters for those lenses in ARW files since the original A77. Capture One can use the embedded lens profiles.

I feel bad for misdirecting this discussion when I suggested a lens.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2022 at 04:14
I'm not a fan of Capture One. Yes, It's an improvement over PlayMemories Home, which is crap with the RAW's. For my dual system purposes I use Corel Paintshop Pro which is hit and miss on the lens profiles.
BTW when I say "Capture One" I'm referring to "Imaging Edge"; Are we talking about the say product?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote onsplekkie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2022 at 08:24
Great to hear that you're photo vibes are flowing again .
The Tamron 17-50 2.8 is a small gem for this system. But the one lens that lived on my A57 was the Zony 24mm f/2 distagon. It gave me so many great keepers. Shame it wasnt as good on fullframe
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