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    Posted: 11 September 2011 at 10:08
so yesterday i was hole day in the forest with my portable-hide , to take some forest-birds , it`s not the best time of year , because a lot of birds,go away fot the fall/winter

i had the opportunity to work with the MINOLTA 400MM F4.5 and my one SAL 70-400 G
the birds are very small and always moving , also dark/dificult background
after a hole day working with both lenses i prefer the SAL70-400
sometimes the minolta 400MM F4.5 was " hunting" but with the SAL70-400 i have no problem with that , or less problem with that
and the SSM of the SAL 70-400 MAKE no sound , that is great for nature-photography
the combination of the A77and SAL 70-400 , is great , the AF is really fast
i use on the A77 the new TRACKING FOCUS , that is great ,
it follows the object
i pointed on the bird , and then i go with my camera to the left or right ,it` follow the bird , so i have in one time a good compostition
but you can also chose one of the 19 AF-POINTS

i like the EVF...it`s much better than the A55 ,but i think the EVF of the A55 is also OK
it`s big , and you have lot of information on it

the battery was also very good i started at 9 o`clock in the morning , and around half past three it was empty , it was all those hours on , and when there no birds i look on the lcd-screen to my results

i love the shutter-sound , it`s a litllebit harder than the A55 , and i like that
a friend of mine have the canon 5Dmark2 , i let him try to make a movie with the A77 , he was really supriced and that he stay in focus , he like`s that , and also of the translucent fixed mirror and the benefits of it

i`am not very good in the theory-technics from camera`s and and picture`s , i am one the practice , i work with it , i`am not a pixel-peeper , but i alway`s try to have the best result there is ,
it`s my hobby not my job ( i`am a welder )

i have it now two weeks , and i only shoot with it in the weekend , i shall try next weekend to shoot birds in flight , after that weekend he must back to sony


finaly let me say it`s a pre-production camera ,and it has not the final firmware , the camera come from greece , and the language of the menu was in italian

here my results























all the picture`s are taken in RAW , aan work with it , in the RAW-converter of sony ( IDC)

thanks for looking

gustav


Edited by ijsvogel - 11 September 2011 at 23:14
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www.gkiburg.nl A77 A99 SAL70-400 GII SAL300mm 2.8 SSM-G   SAL500mm F4 SSM-G SAL70-400 SSM-G
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Drluap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2011 at 10:20
Gustav - wonderful description of my next present to myself. Good to hear very positive response to real day working with camera & nice lens to match. Finally, beautiful photos thanks 4 sharing
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Thank you for sharing the nice images! You wrote that the AF with 70-400G is fast and that tracking mode works well. That sounds very good! How is the AF with 70-400G at 400mm compared to 70-400G on previous cameras lile A700/900/580/55?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Frankman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2011 at 10:37
Gustav - these are splendid images. I think you just sold a bunch of A77's for Sony! Interesting comparison you made between the 400/4.5 and 70-400 zoom. I may have to jump onto one of those as well.

I look forward to your BIF shots and report.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote stiuskr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2011 at 11:03
Gustav, could you tell us what firmware is in the camera? If it's like the previous cameras you can find out by pressing the display button while viewing a menu. Some reviewers are saying they have the final firmware version but they haven't identified it by version number so I'm guessing it's Ver. 1.

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I want one too! Wanted to wait for the A99, but not sure yet.... might buy both... (when there are no noise issues).

Thanks Gustav!! Great to see Sony is being serious in closing the gap with Canikon.
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Originally posted by ijsvogel ijsvogel wrote:

... after that weekend he must back to sony
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gustav


Can we help you in any way, f.i. sending e-mails to a certain e-mailadress at Sony's? We love to 'attack' them with e-mails, if we can help you keeping he A77 a little longer that way!

Please let us know!
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Gustav,
Thanks for all you foto's and remarks sofare, I know that many people like me folowing with a lot of interest your articals and fotos. You mentioned that the light conditions where not good at this time of the year, I live in twenthe and know what you mean. Can you let us know what ISO you have used.
I own a 70/400 myselfs and also a Minolta 600 f4. The 70/400 is a great zoom but the 600 is significantly sharper. I can see that clearly on my backfocusing card set up. I would expect that from the prim 400 too. Maybe it needs backfocus adjustment like my 600 on my A900. The A77 has fortunatly micro adjustment too like the 900.
But thanks again I can not wait get my 77 and I hope soon my 99. And I hope that King Gustav will keep plosting his foto and articals.
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Originally posted by fdpaterek fdpaterek wrote:

Can you let us know what ISO you have used.


the exif is in the pictures

looks good so far still wondering why they dropped tethered shooting .

and remote controlled option by usb.
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All images contain Exif data (you can view that with Opanda plugin for Internet Explorer oder Exif Viewer add on for Firefox; both are for free). According to the Exif, the photos were taken between ISO 100 and 400.
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Originally posted by fdpaterek fdpaterek wrote:

....Can you let us know what ISO you have used......


They appear to be, in order of photos, ISO 400, 400, 400, 400, 400, 400, 200, 100, 200, 160 and 400.

Gustav, thanks for posting these.

Am I the only one slightly disappointed so far? The images are just lacking a bit of the 'wow' factor for me.

Possibly I'm wrong in blaming the A77 but we do definitely know Gustav and the 70-400G aren't the problem. :)

But, I doubt I'll be buying. I don't see the point of going backwards in high ISO performance from the A580 (if the early impressions are true) that I used to have.

Of course, I'll wait until the final firmware and full reviews though.
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The images look excellent to me.
Thanks for your thoughts ... it is good to hear positive things about the A77...I would love to get one but finances do not permit it at this stage thanks to a heavy car repair bill    800 GBP.

I would really like to see some images at F16 to see if diffraction is a
problem when pixel peeping.....

thanks
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Gustav,
Beautiful and masterful images, as always from you.
Very interesting to read your comments about the a77, and looking forward to seeing your birds in flight photos.
Certainly the image quality puts to rest any concerns about SLT for me, but I must wonder what happens over time, following many lens changes, to the surface of the translucent plastic pellicle mirror, as it must need cleaning, just as a sensor does.
I'll happily stay with my two a700's until they die before thinking of buying an a77, by which time any fine tuning of firmware should well and truly have been dealt with, and pricing hopefully will have become keener.
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