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Post Options Post Options   Quote jarenas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 March 2006 at 03:44
It took me a few days to read his book and although it has given some things to think about including appendix B I wish he had touched on using slow sync because I haven't been able to master this feature.

One issue is what metering to be in?
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote ajm80031 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 March 2006 at 15:15
Good question. You want your foreground subject properly exposed, so you that might suggest spot-metering on it. However, the reason you're using slow sync is that you want the background to show up which would suggest wide-area metering.

So much for theory. In practice I've mostly used wide-area metering for slow sync photos and they've usually worked out well. Occasionally I need to dial in some negative flash compensation because the foreground subject gets a bit overexposed but most of the time I'm happy with the results with no compensation. What problems are you running into with slow sync?

BTW, it might be worthwhile to start a new topic asking for advice on slow sync to make your question more visible.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jarenas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 March 2006 at 20:22
Whenever I activate the slow sync feature, the shutter speed is so slow that hand holding would not be practical. I haven't bumped up the iso and I usually don't travel w/ a tripod- bag is already to heavy.

Thats pretty much the gist of it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jeditim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 March 2006 at 14:42
I previosuly purchased the hard copy of Gary's book and sent him an email in regards to Appendix B...within a couple of hours I received the link, printed the file and placed it with my updated Chapter 7.

While I could have just taken multiple pictures to get to the desired effect I can now use Gary's setup as a guide and adjust accordingly...nice quick response from Gary.
Thanks, Tim
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Originally posted by jarenas jarenas wrote:

Whenever I activate the slow sync feature, the shutter speed is so slow that hand holding would not be practical. I haven't bumped up the iso and I usually don't travel w/ a tripod- bag is already to heavy.

Thats pretty much the gist of it.


You can set exposure compensation for ambient only and use slow sync.

Lets say non flashed ambient exposure is f4 1/8s, slow sync will allow the flash to make up some of the exposure so will give you 1/15s.
If you set -1 ambient comp you will get 1/30s with slow sync. I call it "slowish sync" but I usually use M mode to get me there.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote jarenas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 March 2006 at 16:54
Thanks Andrew. I'll give it a try tonight.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote X-R-M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 March 2006 at 03:49
Jeditim, I also have printed version of Gary's book (version 1.3).
After asking Gary for Appendix B and updated chapter 7,I received link for App.B, but not Chapter 7 update.

What version of printed book do you have?
Maybe Chapter in my book is already updated (i ordered book in January 2006)?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jeditim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 March 2006 at 13:50
I received the Chapter 7 update back in early December...I believe that any books sold after November 2005 contained the updated chapter.

I suspect your book contains all of the new material.
Tim

Yahoo User Group - Gary Friedman Message on his ebook

In the event you can't read the message I posted the text below...it was posted on December 3, 2005

       Well, as promised, Chapter 7 of the 5D / 7D ebook (dealing with Wireless Flash) has been updated. (In addition, the online article at <www.FriedmanArchives.com/flash.htm> has been updated as well to clearly spell out the differences in the way wireless flash works with film and with digital. (Not at all the same!)) These changes have also been rolled
into the book so those who buy either the downloadable .pdf file or the hardcopy book format will receive them as well.

Those of you who bought the ebook have already been notified of a new Chapter 7 .pdf file that you can download. Those of you who bought the printed copy of the book, however...well, that's a different story.

I have just learned that my Print-On-Demand publisher, lulu.com, has a policy of NOT sharing customer information with me, making it nearly impossible to let people know about updates. Hopefully this list can serve
to get the word out.

So, to all of you who bought the hardcopy of the book, please get in touch with me! As a buyer of the book you are entitled to receive the Updated Chapter 7.pdf file as well.

Many thanks to all of you who have spread the word about this book to the other online communities!

Sincerely,
Gary Friedman


Edited by jeditim - 24 March 2006 at 13:54
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gary Friedman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2006 at 09:43
Well, as the author of said ebook, I feel I must take a moment and offer a heartfelt "Thank You!" to everyone for such positive and honest feedback! It makes the whole project worthwhile and encourages me to make the next edition for the Sony cameras (yes, there will be one) even better.

Yes, it is correct that if you bought the hardcopy version of the book then I have no idea you exist unless you emailed me to register (as requested in the confirmation email). If you still don't have Appendix B yet, send me an email (Gary@FriedmanArchives.com) along with your receipt and I'll send it to you right away.

Now regarding all this complaining about being a Minolta "cheerleader"... :-) Nothing I say is over the top. Camera design is difficult, good user interface design is damn difficult (it must be, look at how few others do it right, whether you're talking cameras or software!), and the fact that they can have a sensor moving up and down while a shutter slit travels across it depositing fractions of multiple flash pulses onto the sensor WITHOUT showing any effects of light-and-dark banding is beyond me. (By all accounts there should be an interference pattern when shooting with flash and AS on.) How many other cameras allow you to press AEL in manual exposure mode, and then change the shutter speed as you change the f/stop? How in the world did they manage to do High-Speed flash synch in wireless mode (nobody else can do that!)??

It is VERY clear to me that the entire UI design of the 7D had considerably more thought go into it than any other modern camera. They have solved technical problems that nobody thought were solvable in a consumer-priced camera. And, according to David Kilpatrick (a UK magazine editor), their color rendition and in-camera sharpening are done better than the competition. Why shouldn't I point out a job well done when I see it? (Especially when nobody else is hearalding these accomplishments!) If nothing else, I think this kind of cheerleading is a little overdue from the rest of the camera world.

So now you know! :-) I hope this answer is helpful.

Sincerely,
Gary Friedman
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2006 at 10:00
Welcome to our forum Gary.
I hope you will find worthwhile visiting it more often :)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gary Friedman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2006 at 10:09

Thanks!

I wish I had more spare time to "hang out" in the online forums, but I'm way too busy just doing things that keep the licensing revenue coming in...

-Gary
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Gary,
I never though you were cheerleading for Minolta...then again I agree with what you are saying.

Welcome to the group and thank you for your quick responses to emails.
Tim
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I downloaded a copy as e-book. In one word..Great!!!!
A must have for every 5d and/or 7d owner.
Lots of tips and tricks, lots of background information, an usefull manual, and also a little encyclopedia on these two slr's.
Written in an understanding way, without too much tech talk. Usefull for both beginners and more expierienced users.

Greetz from the Netherlands.
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Originally posted by jeditim jeditim wrote:

I received the Chapter 7 update back in early December...I believe that any books sold after November 2005 contained the updated chapter.

I suspect your book contains all of the new material.
Tim

Yahoo User Group - Gary Friedman Message on his ebook

In the event you can't read the message I posted the text below...it was posted on December 3, 2005

       Well, as promised, Chapter 7 of the 5D / 7D ebook (dealing with Wireless Flash) has been updated. (In addition, the online article at <www.FriedmanArchives.com/flash.htm> has been updated as well to clearly spell out the differences in the way wireless flash works with film and with digital. (Not at all the same!)) These changes have also been rolled
into the book so those who buy either the downloadable .pdf file or the hardcopy book format will receive them as well.

Those of you who bought the ebook have already been notified of a new Chapter 7 .pdf file that you can download. Those of you who bought the printed copy of the book, however...well, that's a different story.

I have just learned that my Print-On-Demand publisher, lulu.com, has a policy of NOT sharing customer information with me, making it nearly impossible to let people know about updates. Hopefully this list can serve
to get the word out.

So, to all of you who bought the hardcopy of the book, please get in touch with me! As a buyer of the book you are entitled to receive the Updated Chapter 7.pdf file as well.

Many thanks to all of you who have spread the word about this book to the other online communities!

Sincerely,
Gary Friedman


Thanks Tim.
Since Gary send me only Appendix B link, I must have updated version of Chapter 7.
His response for my request about Appendix B was very quick, and he was out of town at that time.
I find that Appendix very handy.
Cheers
Jerry

Edited by X-R-M - 01 April 2006 at 02:11
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