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    Posted: 27 June 2018 at 02:52
Just choose your camera model and watch all the compatible accessories light up or vanish. It's like Alpha Wack-A-Mole.
 



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Interesting.

It says there's a strap that's compatible with the A77II but not the A68.
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Very handy. TFS
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Photosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 June 2018 at 15:41
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Interesting.

It says there's a strap that's compatible with the A77II but not the A68.


Yeah. I'm trying to figure out if that's the fun part, or the clever part. Sony...

I found the site while searching for an external battery/ac power solution for a99II that utilized the dummy battery method, like EMount does, rather than the traditional AMount power port. I've never found any dummy battery solution for AMount. Too bad, because the a99II power port has a problem that no other AMount has. Using the port forces the LCD into Sunny Weather super bright mode, and causes camera to heat up faster, which is exactly the problem I was trying to address by using external power. This happens regardless if battery is installed or not.

I saw a post somewhere a long time ago where someone made a dummy battery system out of a real one. There were some issues with the smarts of it all needing to reset the info chip. Didn't look easy.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sybersitizen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 June 2018 at 16:30
Originally posted by Photosopher Photosopher wrote:

Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Interesting.

It says there's a strap that's compatible with the A77II but not the A68.

Yeah. I'm trying to figure out if that's the fun part, or the clever part. Sony...

I found the site while searching for an external battery/ac power solution for a99II that utilized the dummy battery method, like EMount does, rather than the traditional AMount power port. I've never found any dummy battery solution for AMount. Too bad, because the a99II power port has a problem that no other AMount has. Using the port forces the LCD into Sunny Weather super bright mode, and causes camera to heat up faster, which is exactly the problem I was trying to address by using external power. This happens regardless if battery is installed or not.

Leave it to me to hone in on a weird documentation error and to you to spot a weird implementation anomaly. We make a good team!
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Originally posted by Photosopher Photosopher wrote:

I found the site while searching for an external battery/ac power solution for a99II that utilized the dummy battery method, like EMount does, rather than the traditional AMount power port. I've never found any dummy battery solution for AMount. Too bad, because the a99II power port has a problem that no other AMount has. Using the port forces the LCD into Sunny Weather super bright mode, and causes camera to heat up faster, which is exactly the problem I was trying to address by using external power. This happens regardless if battery is installed or not.

I saw a post somewhere a long time ago where someone made a dummy battery system out of a real one. There were some issues with the smarts of it all needing to reset the info chip. Didn't look easy.

Is this the sort of thing you were looking for?

He uses an external battery hooked up with 3 wires to the dummy battery so the camera "reads" the chip from the external battery. Find a way to supply extra charge to the external battery, if necessary, and you are there. See here.

However, note the warnings in this thread.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Photosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 July 2018 at 01:09
Originally posted by mirthseeker mirthseeker wrote:

Is this the sort of thing you were looking for?


Yes indeed that was the old thread I was referring to. Thanks for finding that.

I remember later in the article where he states:
"The battery may be a source of heat, but it is more likely that it is the Exmor cmos sensor and the Bionz processors that are the heat source.". That jogged my memory as to why I abandoned the idea. Although his desire was for long exposure with a900, I feel the same issues would be had for my video concerns with a99II, which heats up far more than my a900 ever dreamt of... (Yes my a900 dreams... of me using it again one day).

Then I realized that a vertical battery grip was essentially the same thing as a dummy battery, if the goal is to remove a potential heat source away from the sensor/processor. Now I don't believe a hot battery is the culprit, but rather a victim of being heated up by sitting so close to the hot camera internals. Removing a battery from the vertical grip tray is never hot after a video session. Now my dreams involve somehow affixing a fan, or heat sink into the hollow areas of the vertical grip and smoke stack sled. There seems to be a lot of room available on that end of the grip. I may buy a cheap aftermarket grip to toy around with the idea.

Until then, I've ordered the Atomos Shogun Flame external recorder. I've heard that it doesn't help with keeping a99II cooler. But that was a quick quip from a stills photo forum a long time ago. It was never supported with any data, and I've learned a lot since then about how to keep a99II running cooler.

It's more than just the sensor/processor, or moving a battery away. It also involves the remote control, the audio (I'm using Sony's XLR adapter), bluetooth, and all the seemingly little things that are causing the camera to work harder for its pay. The Atomos can take the audio burden away from camera, along with processing, and allow me to keep a99II lcd/evf turned off. So no zebras or peaking or anything else will be required from camera.

I'm anxious to test and share my findings soon.

Meanwhile, if there's a small electronics buff who'd like to take on the challenge of modifying an a99II/a77 battery grip by putting a fan/vent/heatsink into the far right (even if it could only use one battery, then I'd be happy to provide the grip for testing and open for discussion. I'm not very good with electronics.
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Originally posted by Photosopher Photosopher wrote:

Just choose your camera model and watch all the compatible accessories light up or vanish. It's like Alpha Wack-A-Mole.


First laugh I've had in days, thanks!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2018 at 15:40
If the battery is getting hot because it is absorbing heat from the camera, then removing it will make the camera get hotter ...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Photosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2018 at 16:37
Hi Miranda, are you saying the battery would act like a heat sink?

I've started a new thread about a99II 4K overheating solved... HERE... Commented on your reply, and asked your opinion.
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