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neilt3
Senior Member Joined: 13 September 2010 Country: United Kingdom Location: Manchester.U.K Status: Offline Posts: 3520 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 October 2023 at 23:41 | |
Just paid by paypal , set it up as friends and family , payment by UK £ to Bob in UK £ .
Used my debit card , no additional charges were made . I agree a poll should be set up to gauge how many people would be willing to donate , and averaged across that number , including sponsors or advertising revenue etc , how much needs to be donated in total so a figure needs to be donated ( on average ) per person for the site to continue . Obviously how much money people have to spare will vary greatly whether it's 50p or £50 it all adds up . A running total would also be good to be visible , so it can be seen where the forums at . |
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bonneville
Senior Member Joined: 19 May 2007 Country: United Kingdom Status: Online Posts: 2646 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2023 at 08:34 | |
Bob, IMHO one of the most popular forum models is that for a free account you get lots of adverts and you are limited to what you can do, I.e. cannot buy/sell, cannot post images, cannot access certain areas etc. For an annual “membership” fee you have a better experience without all or so many restrictions.
A good example is Grey Arrows, a UK based drone enthusiast forum who have recently moved to a membership model very successfully. |
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Michael Johansson
Senior Member Joined: 13 May 2006 Country: Sweden Location: Gullaskruv Status: Offline Posts: 727 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2023 at 09:03 | |
Very interesting thread. I am willing to make a donation but first I would like to get some kind of figure of an average and appropriate size of such donation related to the total cost for Dyxum.
I am a member of a club in Sweden with a very popular forum. We have three different levels for users: 1. Guest, can only read public parts of the forum, no registration 2. "Interested" registered user that can write up to 300 posts in public parts of our forum, no pictures, free of charge. 3. "Member", can write unlimited amount of posts including unlimited number of pictures etc. Pictures uploaded and stored on our own server. Access to the whole forum, annual fee of 7.50 GBP. Today we have roughly 35 000 registered users including 16 000 paying members. It would be interesting to know how much it would cost per paying member if Dyxum could store uploaded pictures. Today I don´t post any pictures at all as I am fed up with the hassle to upload to a different site, copy link and then go to Dyxum to paste link only to find that links are broken after a couple of years or even months. Boring to look at threads one or two years old or older with so many posts with broken links. I understand that it all comes down to number of users willing to make donations so a poll makes sense. |
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Bob J
Admin Group Dyxum Administrator Joined: 23 December 2005 Country: United Kingdom Location: London Status: Offline Posts: 27318 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2023 at 10:26 | |
My personal inclination is not to follow a subscription model - partly because I'd be concerned that we would be discouraging younger members, or those whose circumstances are not great.
I'd rather that people were able to contribute financially as and when they feel they can. Any contribution is appreciated, of whatever size, and if people are unable or do not wish to contribute financially, a contribution through posting in the forums is still valuable.. |
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Phil Wood
Senior Member Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 3290 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2023 at 11:59 | |
I would seriously consider a move to shared hosting - I suspect the cost would be dramatically lower. I pay about £300 a year for multiple websites, loads of databases, storage, email, backups, etc. and am looking at cheaper options. The Ad income may cover it.
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angora
Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2014 Country: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 5205 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2023 at 04:58 | |
glad you finally get the word out, Bob. often wondered who is paying the bills?
some one has to do it?? ;) it didn't seem fair, so I, for one, would be happy to pay a fair share. since I practically live here, Dyxum being my hangout on the WWW. (hoping for a joined effort, I'm not as rich as I 'look'? but it would def. be coming from a good heart!). last week I had to pay for something and there were 2 options; either credit card, no fee or PayPal + an extra $2 fee. something 'new'! waiting for 'instructions'. as I would like to make a payment to Dyxum, not PayPal. |
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Michael Johansson
Senior Member Joined: 13 May 2006 Country: Sweden Location: Gullaskruv Status: Offline Posts: 727 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2023 at 08:41 | |
PayPal fee when sending GBP to Dyxum seem to be 2.4%.
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KoBra64
Senior Member Joined: 16 October 2008 Country: Netherlands Location: Groningen Status: Offline Posts: 4125 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2023 at 09:56 | |
Transfer by Paypal, stated to family, was €2. Didn't see the %rate, maybe it depends on the amount? Anyway, it would be sad if Dyxum would stop.
Maybe it is an option to open up to other brands in a sub-section to create more traffic? |
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addy landzaat
Senior Member Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 15628 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2023 at 10:07 | |
PayPal costs are complicated...
Like I said, I do not have PayPal - are there other options to contribute? Maybe a yearly donation drive is an idea? I doubt a "different mount cameras" section will improve the number of visitors much. A lot of photographers use Sony but most of them aren't here..... |
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addy landzaat
Senior Member Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 15628 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2023 at 10:16 | |
It is €1,99 to send money to the UK from the EER. Really annoying cost structure. There are additional costs for changing currency, if you use a credit card etc. The "market" you're in makes a difference. |
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Bob J
Admin Group Dyxum Administrator Joined: 23 December 2005 Country: United Kingdom Location: London Status: Offline Posts: 27318 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2023 at 10:50 | |
Regarding the unexpected currency conversions - it turned out I had the primary currency as dollars previously.
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neilt3
Senior Member Joined: 13 September 2010 Country: United Kingdom Location: Manchester.U.K Status: Offline Posts: 3520 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2023 at 11:39 | |
It seems to avoid paying to transfer money it could be set up with several mods collecting the payments . Bob collecting U.K payments , a European Mod collection EU payments, and a American Mod collecting US payments. As the bills are paid out of one pot , these mods could then just do a bank transfer into the one central account . Sound reasonable? |
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alanfrombangor
Senior Member Joined: 05 December 2007 Country: Wales Location: Bangor Status: Offline Posts: 5063 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2023 at 12:42 | |
Bob, I found my primary currency was USD also, something within paypal must have switched it as it was certainly GBP before. I changed it back but your setting must have forced the conversion when I made the payment.
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skm.sa100
Senior Member Joined: 08 January 2009 Country: United States Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Posts: 4599 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2023 at 12:47 | |
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More Dyxumer, less photographer.
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