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Post Options Post Options   Quote SnowFella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2020 at 03:26
Sorry about the latish response, had to head to the dayjob and do yet another day of "walking dead". Be about 50 of us right now with a target on our backs just waiting to be pulled aside. 14 has already had their marching orders, caught at start of shift, escorted to clear their lockers and then straight off site.

The 4mp between the RIV and A6xxx is indeed not much of a difference but it more comes down to me being allergic to the A6xxx viewfinder layout. Tested the stepson's A6000 and just can't get my head around it.

As for the old Minolta's, most used would be the 24-50, 35-105 Original and the beercan. Break out the AF500 from time to time aswell. Sadly my old Tokina 19-35 that did ok on APS-C has proved to be a dud on FF, corners are absolute rubbish.

So the thought with an A7III would be to start fresh with some lenses to cover just about the whole range, something I likely couldn't swing if I went for the A7RIV or A9. Then again now that I think about it, could always go the whole hog (A9 plus the 200-600) and take the bring A77 out of retirement for anything but birding.
 



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Lens design has come a long way since those zooms. I'd say something like even the new tamron 28-200mm would perform better than the three zooms put together (though the beencan does have very nice bokeh, definitely nicer than the tamron).

Personally I'd say go for the lenses than body to start with. So I'd go with A7III and a full native line up instead of A7RIV and Minolta's or even A77+Minoltas.

Also the A7RIII is pretty good unless you want to shoot 200-600mm with 1.4x in which case you'd lose PDAF.
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Well, with today's news it looks like I might have to start thinking seriously about this thing. Big announcement this morning at work and I'm getting my papers tomorrow morning. Already been told the basics of what they will be offering, naturally can't make any decision before I have it in writing but sounds like involuntary redundancy will be the only viable option.

Bugger!
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Commiserations, Snowfella. It's always a big blow when it comes, even if you've been anticipating it and especially if not. Lots to think about, I expect. Hope you are in a position to take some time for yourself (and camera) before any more big decisions.

My 2p worth on your choice, assuming you haven't made it yet: On my A7Rii, AF on the LA-EA2/4 is very limited in modes - no tracking or moveable spot, etc. But my de-baffled LA-EA1 does allow these on my A-mount SAM lenses.

So if you can afford it I'd go for the A7Riv and use the LA-EA5 with it, if you want to use A-mount lenses much.

I haven't used the most expensive long zooms on either A or E-mount so maybe this isn't true for those, but I have yet to find a long FF zoom which is capable of resolving the A7Rii sensor - or even the A58 sensor - at the long end of its range. Resolution (and contrast) is always observably less at the long end than the short end. Though there are those on the web who claim you will get more resolution with more Mp even then ... I'm not convinced this is true with a weak or absent AA filter on the sensor.

For the greatest reach (including crop capability) a high-MP APS-C camera with a dedicated APS-C lens seems to me to be better than an FF camera and an FF lens. But with the A7Riv you will have enough Mp in crop mode to try both, so that's a win! In my tests the A-mount 55-300mm out-resolves all the Minolta zooms I have (100-300 APO, 75-300mm, 70-210 (f4 and both vario), 100-200, etc) and is on par with the 500mm Reflex. But of course the FF lens will give you more image width, which you can set against the lenses are a lot heavier!

I was pleased (and quite surprised) to find the A7Rii stabilises the A-mount 55-300 in live view on the LA-EA1, which it never did on the A58. Not quite as effective as the OSS E-mount zooms if you wobble a lot, but useable and helpful.



Edited by Miranda F - 01 March 2021 at 08:06
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Thanks.
I'll have plenty of time to think about things, especially as it sounds like the company will require me to stay on until the first week in May. Likely to train my now salaried replacement...unless I elect to apply for that new position and "throw out" near 2 years worth of a wage in payout.

And at the same I've got lots of life left in the A99ii, it's only had around 7000 clicks on it but every day it gets older it's second hand value drops.
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Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

Well, with today's news it looks like I might have to start thinking seriously about this thing. Big announcement this morning at work and I'm getting my papers tomorrow morning. Already been told the basics of what they will be offering, naturally can't make any decision before I have it in writing but sounds like involuntary redundancy will be the only viable option.

Bugger!


Sorry to hear that it's come around now (despite knowing it will already). I think its one of those things that's hard to be OK with even if you knew it was inevitable. In any case good luck with whatever comes after this

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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I was pleased (and quite surprised) to find the A7Rii stabilises the A-mount 55-300 in live view on the LA-EA1, which it never did on the A58. Not quite as effective as the OSS E-mount zooms if you wobble a lot, but useable and helpful.
Hmmm, it seems the A58 does not have the "SteadyS. w/ shut." option in the menu.....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SnowFella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2021 at 09:55
Think only the A77ii, A99ii and possibly A68 has that option.

As for the A1...it's a thought....but the better half might have me bumped off if I even mentioned it.
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Like the others said, it is hard - good luck!

Re. the option. The 200-600 is a great lens and the A7r4 is a wonderful camera - but you might want to look into the problems some reported with this combination. Looking at your photographs I think you will benefit from a high pixel camera, that would rule out the A7m3. I would look at the A7r3 or A7r4 0r wait for the expected A7m4 - as long as your A99m2 is working, there is no big hurry.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Like the others said, it is hard - good luck!

Re. the option. The 200-600 is a great lens and the A7r4 is a wonderful camera - but you might want to look into the problems some reported with this combination. Looking at your photographs I think you will benefit from a high pixel camera, that would rule out the A7m3. I would look at the A7r3 or A7r4 0r wait for the expected A7m4 - as long as your A99m2 is working, there is no big hurry.
I have used 200-600G with both α7R III and IV. The verdict is that the latter works better, especially regarding AF. Of course, if action photography interests you, then I would not forget α9 models either. Granted, the sensor has "only" 24 megapixels, but things like AF, no EVF blackout etc. still offer some advantage over α7(R) models. And for the original α9 the price has started to reach affordable level, especially in used camera market.
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Kind of an update, still haven't decided on what to do as for camera gear but did my last day Friday and I'm now out of a job.
Thought at the moment is to go A7RIV with a 3 lens kit, 24-105G, 70-200 f/4 and the 200-600 plus grip and 1.4x TC. Ought to cover most of the photography I tend to do and should last me for years to come.
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Must be a kind of strange feeling finishing the job. I think the a7RIV is probably pretty future proof. I can't see that there will be a big payoff to putting even more AF points on the sensor, and the MP count is ample for a lot of purposes. So it should keep producing good pics.

I can't speak to the other lenses, but the 24-105 is a very good 'all purpose' lens for its range. I had wondered about a 24-70/2.8 but in the end, the extra reach and smaller size is good enough. It's my main 'event' lens.
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@Snowfella,
Sorry to hear about the redundancy, but from what you'd previously posted it was known to be coming. Not that it's any consolation. Hopefully a reasonable payout that will fund your new camera kit.
Being an a-mount dinosaur I can't speak with any authority on the current crop of mirrorless offerings, other than to say anyone in the market now seems spoiled for choice. There is such a range of e-mount bodies that it seems there's something for everyone, based on what they are looking to do with their photography, and of course what their budget stretches to.
Similarly, the e-mount lens range is broad, comprehensive, and up to the minute in lens technology.
If you do get the A7Riv you will also have the option of using a-mount lenses with the LA-EA5 adapter with a high level of current functionality.
I'm sure that whatever you end up with will give you lots of photographic pleasure well into the future.
Looking forward to seeing your posts with your new gear when you have settled on it.
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Thanks.
It is indeed kind of a strange feeling even though we knew it was coming, thought it was a secure job as redundancies of this magnitude has never happened to the company before. Just on my site it was in the order of 150 people that got shown the door and there's 27 more sites across the country.
Taking abit of time away from work to get some things around the house sorted before I even think of looking for something new.

Though I have to say the payout, atleast for my site, is rather generous. Industry standard is a 12 week cap I think but in our latest EBA negotiation we got through an 82 week cap. Add in all the leave owing combined with tax breaks and I can now afford an A1 with 600GM and some other GM's for good measure.
Though I suspect the better half would bump me off quietly one night if I went and blew that amount of money on my little hobby.
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