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Post Options Post Options   Quote SnowFella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 May 2021 at 13:07
Never really been a matter of getting all my fingers on the camera but more for balance as I mainly have a long lens mounted.
Even though the 200-600mm is is a lot more front heavy than what I'm used to going from a Sigma 150-500 the internal zoom and not much shift of weight towards the front as I zoom make all the difference.

Bought 2 extra batteries as I picked the kit up as I'm used to cycling 3 thought the A99ii's VG, always replacing the used one for a freshly charged one...now I'm finding I could of done with just one extra battery.
 



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Knew I had enough headroom for those whites and blacks! Sony Imaging Edge vs C One that finally caught up with the R3A and R4A models.

Imaging Edge with the highlight slider bottomed out.

DSC00577 by Johan Olsson, on Flickr

Nothing I did could recover details on the head or the underwing shadows.

C One with a few quick edits.

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Lots more latitude in both highlights and shadows.
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I bought a HONGLAI HL-A74/A92 grip extension a few weeks ago and have been using it exclusively--mostly with the Tamron 70-300 RXD at motorsport events. Maybe it is the lens, but the Real-time Tracking works well. The third generation bodies are obsolete. The viewfinder is still much too dim and too magnified for its small optics.

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The more I handle the camera the less concerned I'm getting when it comes to grip to be honest, coming from handling a gripped A77 and A99ii it still sits well in the hand.
Guess my one wish would be a small extension with an Arca Swizz bottom that I could also screw in an L extension if I needed it. Wishful thinking I'm guessing!
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Yes, the Honglai is taller than it needs to be. The Really Right Stuff Base Plate is a thinner option, but it is over a $100 and just bare metal. I considered half cases and sleeves too.

The camera without a grip extension is nicer to hold than the previous versions. The Sony fifth generation bodies will probably again come with slightly improved grips.

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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:



The camera without a grip extension is nicer to hold than the previous versions. The Sony fifth generation bodies will probably again come with slightly improved grips.

Yes, I expect it to be back to a DSLR shape like an A99II by then.
 



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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:


The camera without a grip extension is nicer to hold than the previous versions. The Sony fifth generation bodies will probably again come with slightly improved grips.

Yes, I expect it to be back to a DSLR shape like an A99II by then.

I find the A77II body worse in many respects. I am sure the fifth generation will still disappoint however improved.

I might like the viewfinder moved to the left corner. Being left-eyed my nose ends up blocking the controls now. Not a tiny flush viewfinder like the cheap E-mount bodies have now. I'd want it to stick out more than the current high-end bodies. Tilting might be nice. Sony's eye sensors seem to be getting worse again.

A larger, higher resolution 2-axis tilting screen would be nice.
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:


The camera without a grip extension is nicer to hold than the previous versions. The Sony fifth generation bodies will probably again come with slightly improved grips.

Yes, I expect it to be back to a DSLR shape like an A99II by then.

I find the A77II body worse in many respects. I am sure the fifth generation will still disappoint however improved.

I might like the viewfinder moved to the left corner. Being left-eyed my nose ends up blocking the controls now. Not a tiny flush viewfinder like the cheap E-mount bodies have now. I'd want it to stick out more than the current high-end bodies. Tilting might be nice. Sony's eye sensors seem to be getting worse again.

A larger, higher resolution 2-axis tilting screen would be nice.

That's not asking for much. Buy the A1, fill out the customer satisfaction form with your suggestions and specs, see what happens. You never know.
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

I might like the viewfinder moved to the left corner. Being left-eyed my nose ends up blocking the controls now.
EDIT: Never mind, I need to improve my critical reading skills. I agree.

Being left eye dominant, I like the viewfinder on the left as with the A6x00 cameras. It gives me a lot space to use the controls.

I also like the A99m2/A77m2 cameras, the only downside is the size compared to the E-mount cameras.

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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:


I find the A77II body worse in many respects. I am sure the fifth generation will still disappoint however improved.

I might like the viewfinder moved to the left corner. Being left-eyed my nose ends up blocking the controls now. Not a tiny flush viewfinder like the cheap E-mount bodies have now. I'd want it to stick out more than the current high-end bodies. Tilting might be nice. Sony's eye sensors seem to be getting worse again.

A larger, higher resolution 2-axis tilting screen would be nice.


Even though I ran my A77 through 100K shots I found it to be somewhat painful to use with the shallow distance between viewfinder and rear screen. Wearing glasses I needed to jam that thing right into my face to see properly through the viewfinder and after a long day out my nose was hurting!

As for rear screen, not to fussed to be honest, spent 99% of it's life on both A77 and A99ii turned inwards.
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Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:


I find the A77II body worse in many respects. I am sure the fifth generation will still disappoint however improved.

I might like the viewfinder moved to the left corner. Being left-eyed my nose ends up blocking the controls now. Not a tiny flush viewfinder like the cheap E-mount bodies have now. I'd want it to stick out more than the current high-end bodies. Tilting might be nice. Sony's eye sensors seem to be getting worse again.

A larger, higher resolution 2-axis tilting screen would be nice.


Even though I ran my A77 through 100K shots I found it to be somewhat painful to use with the shallow distance between viewfinder and rear screen. Wearing glasses I needed to jam that thing right into my face to see properly through the viewfinder and after a long day out my nose was hurting!

As for rear screen, not to fussed to be honest, spent 99% of it's life on both A77 and A99ii turned inwards.

I don't think I use the rear screen much with the A77II either, but it never was my main camera, so it didn't get much variety of use. I probably don't even need a rear screen for a body dedicated to long lenses. I think about getting a small sensor SLR since optical viewfinders are just so much nicer in direct sun.
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I found the screen of the A77m2 indispensable when I was on a safari in Kenya. I simply put the camera and lens on the beanbag, while waiting for something to happen: I was looking at the screen at a group of animals that were just lying there. Using my 70-400G at 400mm.

When using the camera (A77m2 or A99m2) as a general purpose camera, the screen was exceptional useful.

If you kept the screen 99% of the time turned in, you missed out on one of the greatest features of the camera. With the dedicated button making it so easy to move from EVF to screen when you want to. And the multi-angle system of the A99m2/A77m2 was (is) great!

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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:


I find the A77II body worse in many respects. I am sure the fifth generation will still disappoint however improved.

I might like the viewfinder moved to the left corner. Being left-eyed my nose ends up blocking the controls now. Not a tiny flush viewfinder like the cheap E-mount bodies have now. I'd want it to stick out more than the current high-end bodies. Tilting might be nice. Sony's eye sensors seem to be getting worse again.

A larger, higher resolution 2-axis tilting screen would be nice.


Even though I ran my A77 through 100K shots I found it to be somewhat painful to use with the shallow distance between viewfinder and rear screen. Wearing glasses I needed to jam that thing right into my face to see properly through the viewfinder and after a long day out my nose was hurting!

As for rear screen, not to fussed to be honest, spent 99% of it's life on both A77 and A99ii turned inwards.

I don't think I use the rear screen much with the A77II either, but it never was my main camera, so it didn't get much variety of use. I probably don't even need a rear screen for a body dedicated to long lenses. I think about getting a small sensor SLR since optical viewfinders are just so much nicer in direct sun.

yes, though I use the rear screen occasionally, when I use it is useful to move it as needed: and when not in use I can turn it in for protection. A design sorely lacking in most of the a7 and a6xxx series.
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