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    Posted: 17 May 2009 at 15:54
I currently use a Canon G9 IR converted camera. I would prefer to get a Sony a200/a300 IR converted, but the only place I have found that does IR conversions on Sony dslr cameras is Spencers Camera. Has anyone used Spencers for this conversion? Do you know anyone else that will convert a Sony camera to IR?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote groovyone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2009 at 21:02
I have been looking everywhere to get one done. Someone on a local photo forum just sent their A200 in for conversion so I will keep everyone posted once they get it back.
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Any others using an IR converted Sony dslr?
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Sure have, actually have an a300 right here that we converted in-house. We started doing conversions earlier this year and we've been pretty successful with most of the sony lineup. Maybe i'll take it out for a spin later today and post some sample pictures if you guys would like to see them. I'm not that great a photographer but i'll do my best to showcase the A300IR.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote groovyone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2009 at 21:30
Originally posted by MSoares MSoares wrote:

Sure have, actually have an a300 right here that we converted in-house. We started doing conversions earlier this year and we've been pretty successful with most of the sony lineup. Maybe i'll take it out for a spin later today and post some sample pictures if you guys would like to see them. I'm not that great a photographer but i'll do my best to showcase the A300IR.



That would be awesome! How much are you guys charging for the conversion, and am I correct in assuming the IR filter is glass and not plastic?
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Charges on the conversion are $249 for DSLR & $299 for Full Frame DSLR (if anyone is crazy enough to convert an A900).
Our prices are the lowest because we have the manufacturer tools to perform the adjustments required - we can do it a lot faster than most folks as well since we take cameras apart all day, everyday. We, as opposed to most conversion places, are an actual repair facility and we are extremely familiar with the adjustments necessary to calibrate these cameras - not to mention the fact that we are only one of two authorized centers in the US for Sony repair.
The glass that we use in our conversions is high quality optical glass that has been manufactured to our specifications.
I'll see if i can post a couple of shots later today with the IR camers for all to see.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote groovyone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2009 at 01:50
Originally posted by MSoares MSoares wrote:

Charges on the conversion are $249 for DSLR & $299 for Full Frame DSLR (if anyone is crazy enough to convert an A900).
Our prices are the lowest because we have the manufacturer tools to perform the adjustments required - we can do it a lot faster than most folks as well since we take cameras apart all day, everyday. We, as opposed to most conversion places, are an actual repair facility and we are extremely familiar with the adjustments necessary to calibrate these cameras - not to mention the fact that we are only one of two authorized centers in the US for Sony repair.
The glass that we use in our conversions is high quality optical glass that has been manufactured to our specifications.
I'll see if i can post a couple of shots later today with the IR camers for all to see.

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You are my new best friend! Now I just need to aquire a camera to convert because I am NOT crazy enough to convert my A900.
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Well, here is a sample image from the converted a300. The lens used on it was the Minolta 28-70mm lens which was NOT the one the camera was calibrated for, however, it still performed pretty well. The filter on this conversion is the 715nm cutoff filter, and the image has been brought into PS to add the false color look to it. Obviously custom white balances and post processing can be done to the images to get the desired effect.
Unfortunately when i took the picture i neglected to take a RAW picture, but if i get a chance i'll snap one so you can see (if you want). This picture was taken quickly on the ride home today. It's just an example of what Sony IR cameras can do, and im sure the camera in more capable hands would perform even better.
http://upload.pbase.com/image/112698648/original


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Post Options Post Options   Quote groovyone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2009 at 02:52
Looks great! Better than my F828. Do you know what the settings were?

Out of curiosity, any chance you could convert the live view sensor too? That way what you see on screen would be what you get when using live view. Probably not worth the cost, just a theoretical question.
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Very nice! So, now I have two questions: Can you perform the same service on a Maxxum 7D, and do you still fix the 1st black frame issue under Sony's continued coverage?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pete Ganzel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2009 at 03:25
Mark:

This is a great service. How about using a R72 on the sensor instead of the clear glass so you can see what you are doing through the lens?

Also, I've got a couple of KM 5Ds to send in for FFB. could this be done at the same time?

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Originally posted by Pete Ganzel Pete Ganzel wrote:

Mark:

This is a great service. How about using a R72 on the sensor instead of the clear glass so you can see what you are doing through the lens?

Also, I've got a couple of KM 5Ds to send in for FFB. could this be done at the same time?

Thanks,

Pete    


The 715nm filter used is the equivallent of the R72. I assume he meant it was put over the sensor.
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Originally posted by groovyone groovyone wrote:



The 715nm filter used is the equivalent of the R72. I assume he meant it was put over the sensor.


That's great Groovy, I wonder what the exposures times are, should be hand holdable if the sensor response is typical. The other thing you could do is use the same filter over the exposure sensor array so the compensation wouldn't need to be so extreme. AF should work fine once you adjust the sensor focus in IR to what's on the screen in visual.

The 5D I tried converting myself by this method also had problems with AS, so I never did get it to work, though I have done it with an old Dimage 7Hi (great for previsualization in the EVF).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote groovyone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2009 at 15:55
Modded cameras can be shot just like your normal SLR for normal photos. I use a modified F828 now and it is GREAT being able to shoot IR without a tripod and crazy long exposures, although I do set +1ev when using Aperature priority. I spent last night trying to find an A350 on closeout, but no luck yet.

From my F828, f/8, ISO 100, 1/80s exposure:


Edited by groovyone - 19 May 2009 at 15:58
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