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    Posted: 01 June 2019 at 04:46
On Thursday I had an accident with a car at a roundabout (it drove into the roundabout without checking for other traffic already in it).
I was traveling at 23kph when it happened. The bike stopped but I didnít. Flying forward I hit the road with hands and tumbled/forward rolled. This transferred a lot of kinetic energy to the road through my helmet and back, slowing me down to 14kph, cracking my helmet and gave me a concussion. The inelegant tumble continued until I came to a halt further down the road. Sports watches are great at tracking speed even when youíre off a bike.
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Helmet cameras. Any advice on good ones, preferably that can be mounted to side of helmet so might survive a crash?
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Ouch!
Bet you are glad you wore that helmet!

Think most of what I see over here in the West Island is various GoPro's and the odd Sony action cams. Never tried either so have no idea how well they work.

Once you do get something suitable make sure you have lots of space on your harddrives for video clips! Had a dashcam fitted when I recently got a new car and I'm quickly gathering memorable clips of the idiocy that all too often takes place on our roads.
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Glad to hear that you didnt get too badly hurt.

Do a google search on Motorcycle Dash Cams. They are small and discrete and also do GPS tracking. They do come in various sizes and location mounts

https://motorbikewriter.com/dashcam-recorder-motorcycles/

https://dashcamsaustralia.com.au/shop/dashcams/dod/dod-hummer-motorbike-cam/

https://www.innovv.com/

It might also be advisable to consider one like that is used by Bicycle riders that is rear facing and supersmall especially for those times where motorists tend to get way too close for comfort. To my knowledge though they may not actually have GPS recording for your transit speed, though that may have changed.

https://www.pushys.com.au/accessories/electronics/cameras.html

I'm not recommending any particular organisation or brand, just search options that may have been overlooked in search criteria.

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Just to clarify @horizon, I was on a bicycle not a motorbike. Hence the sports watch to track my workout 🙂
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Originally posted by wetapunga wetapunga wrote:

Any advice on good ones, preferably that can be mounted to side of helmet so might survive a crash?

In the Sony world there's the RX0 and RX0II. I know very little about either, but apparently the II has much better stabilization options.
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G'day Wetapunga,

My mistake, I just assumed you were on a motorcycle.

As for sports watches, over here, there are alot of people wearing them, not because of Exercise, but because its trendy. I know of one individual that uses the reminder to get up and go to the fridge.

However, I did remember seeing somewhere in my travels an supersmall underwater camera the size of a small light. I then went looking for futher info.

https://www.lorextechnology.com/hd-sports-cameras-and-hd-video-sunglasses/waterproof-sports-camera/LSC015-1-p

Hope this is more to your needs.

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Ouch Good you wore a helmet!

I cannot really add to the subject. Specific reason you want a helmet and not one on your handle bar? With good you mean IQ? If so, I guess the Sony RX0 is your best option with that 1" sensor. Maybe you should (also) ask on a biking forum.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Ouch Good you wore a helmet!

I cannot really add to the subject. Specific reason you want a helmet and not one on your handle bar? With good you mean IQ? If so, I guess the Sony RX0 is your best option with that 1" sensor. Maybe you should (also) ask on a biking forum.


A helmet cam has the advantage of giving my point of view, so if Iím watching a specific car, itíll record that. A handle bar cam only shots what is straight ahead. Itís also subject to a lot more vibration. Thereís no shock absorbers between the wheel and the bars. Any body cam absorbs some of those vibrations through the mass of liquids and tissues that makes up the body.

And yes, very ouch. Itís the reason I havenít been online much of late. The concussion limits my screen time and attention span.
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Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

Ouch!
Bet you are glad you wore that helmet!

Think most of what I see over here in the West Island is various GoPro's and the odd Sony action cams. Never tried either so have no idea how well they work.

Once you do get something suitable make sure you have lots of space on your harddrives for video clips! Had a dashcam fitted when I recently got a new car and I'm quickly gathering memorable clips of the idiocy that all too often takes place on our roads.


The gopros and Sonyís seem to be the most popular options here also. The stabilisations in the Sonyís seem to be a strong point in their favour
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SnowFella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 June 2019 at 08:17
Kinda makes me wonder how in the blazes the dashcam I've got works regarding stabilization. Stuck to the windscreen with some sort of adhesive and with roads all but smooth here in Sydney's west it still doesn't seem to pick up on much vibration. Specs make no kind of mention of any kind of built in stabilization.
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Originally posted by wetapunga wetapunga wrote:

On Thursday I had an accident with a car at a roundabout (it drove into the roundabout without checking for other traffic already in it).
I was traveling at 23kph when it happened. The bike stopped but I didnít.

You have my sympathies. I've been in that situation more than once, though only once actually got knocked off because after many years of motorcycling I always *expect* the car to enter the roundabout and ignore me.
But in my local area I see the problem in reverse because a huge number of young idiot cyclists ignore the road safety rules and are a danger to themselves. EG, riding in dark clothing, at night, without lights, exiting side roads without waiting, doing U-turns without signalling, and all the rest. Either they are immune to Darwinian selection or there are simply a lot of them being born ...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SnowFella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2019 at 10:31
Spent years as a cyclist before moving downunder and quickly learnt that drivers tend to miss or overlook you and it's best to keep a good eye on what car's around you are doing.
Been spread eagle twice across a car bonnet, once from a driver not seeing me (car stopped and as I had right of way I went for it with predictable outcome) and once just not knowing what I was doing (tearing through a carpark as a 6 year old). Both experiences probably helped turn me into a more cautious driver with 24 years without as much as a parking ticket to my name.

Part of me wish I'd had the dashcam 2 years ago so I could show the grandkids what NOT to do when getting off the schoolbuss, never run out infront of it was hammered into me as a kid and saw just that happen not far ahead of me.
6 lane 60km/h stretch of road and the kid darted out to cross the road from infront of the buss. From 60m back I didn't even have enough time to form "Oh F*ck" in my mind, for the driver that cleaned the kid up I'm sure it felt lots less!
Kid got lucky and "walked" away with cuts, bruises, most likely concussion and some broken bones...even with the first person on scene doing an absolute no no in dragging him off the road. EMS was on point though, first ambulance on scene in less than 5 minutes and careflight landed nearby in less than 15!
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I use one quite a bit mountain biking but I wouldnít want to crash with a camera on my head (or chest). Not since Schumacher anyway.

Iíve got an outfront garmin mount with a GoPro mount underneath. Limited use on a mountain bike (I use mine for lights) but fine for road use.
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