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    Posted: 03 November 2022 at 17:34
On the 29th of October 2022, my brother and I visited the Hill Airbase Aerospace Museum in Layton, Utah. Outside the main Museum building are a number of aircraft, mainly very large transports and bombers.

Honkin' big Transport!


There are currently 2 large building housing my aircraft dispays. The first contains mostly WWII aircraft. The building is actually, IMO, too small and many of the aircraft are too closely spaced. Thus some photos are extremely busy! There is construction going on outside, so perhaps there is a new building in the works that might help improve the display of the aircraft.

P-38 Lightning. This one of the few displace that doesn't feel cramped. Included are a couple versions of the Alison engines used by this craft and a damaged propeller from this restored crashed airplane.


P-47D Thunderbolt "The Jug" This is the most interesting of all to me. Look and how cramped is by the C47 transport. The tail actually hangs over the cockpit of the P-47.



"The Jug"


P-51D Mustang. A favorite of many aircraft fans. A B17 is crowed next to it while to trainers fly overhead.




"Audrey" P-51D Mustang



P-40 Warhawk



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Looked up the wikipedia page, but they have a lot of planes, no wonder it is somewhat cramped. I noticed you pictured quite an unique plane already - on your opening pick there is a YA-7F one of only two in existence.

I don't think I ever saw a P47 in the flesh, most of them are in the US. Truly an impressive plane.

Was intrigued by the "V-1" named Wendover Willie - did a quick search and it is a Republic-Ford JB-2, an American copy of the German V-1 flying bomb developed in 1944. Interesting

I don't like it when they cramp the planes, but I can understand that they want to show as many as possible.

Anyway, I will be waiting for more to come - TFS!
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Thank you Addy!

I didn't get a closeup of Wendover Willie, though it is in the background of few of my photos. Its displayed next to the P-51 Mustang. Indeed, I was very happy to see so many of these historic aircraft and fully understand why they are so cramped. There are many other interesting displays, including the jet and internal combustion engines that propel these aircraft. I have a closeup of the B17 cab, but the Short Bier cartoon display of Adolf might not be considered PC to some viewers.
For sure the technology of these warbirds is fascinating, though their purpose as messengers of death and destruction could be considered troubling, I suppose. I have known about this museum for a long time, but it took my brother's insistence on taking me there for my 74th birthday to actually get me there!

I was interested to see an F104 Starfighter on display, since I saw many of these growing up in Germany. In the 70s one could still see these piloted by the German Luftwaffe and by the Canadian Air Force. I seem to remember reports of them crashing from time to time. There was a German band that played at our Heidelberg (American) Teen Club named after that airplane, "The Starfighters".

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This kind of museums is always cramped and it is difficult to isolate matters. Usually the best thing to do is concentrate on framing. You did good, how an image is received may depend on taste. For me, views from the side works best, like #1,4,6,7. TFS Kelly   
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You've got cramped and more cramped - this is more cramped

The F-104G was also the main fighter of the Royal Dutch Airforce. I thought the F16 was so ugly when they replaced the Starfighter. The Germans called it a widowmaker, but I think it wasn't as bad in Dutch service - don't know why....

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Thank you, Michele! I agree, the side views do look best. I wish I had a shot of the F-104A Starfighter from a side view in retrospect. The wings are so tiny and thin I wonder how it could get airborne! It was all jet engine. The museum guide told us the leading edge of the wings were sharp, the mechanics sometimes put "tubies" on them to avoid accidental injuries.
As I mentioned previously, there was a local Heidelberg band in the 60s named the Starfighters after this aircraft.

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A WWII 9"x9" Aerial Reconnaissance Camera. This was behind Plexiglas so there is some reflection.


B-17 Bomb bay. The museum actually had a couple inert nukes!


Moving to the second building, outside were an F4 and a couple Migs

F-4C Phantom


There were many jet fighters on display with Pitot Tubes. You would not want to walk into one of them!

Pitot Tube


F-16 Thunderbird
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A-10A Thunderbolt II


Stealth


Outside again. B-1 Bomber


The B-52 bomber. Another aircraft whose name was lifted by a band!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fred_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 November 2022 at 09:48
Great series Kelly.
Brings back good memories of my visit to the Museo storico dell'Aeronautica Militare in Italy during my holiday in 2017, although they didn't have a B52
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Nice, classic, picture of the Starfighter, showing off those impressive small wings.
I am two thoughts about the Delta Dagger - it is nice to show off the pitot tube, but the triangle windscreen is also interesting...
I like the set-up with the F16's, well captured.

And waiting for Josef (Coast) to comment on the B52 and the B1
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Thank you, Fred and Addy! Is it a Delta Dagger? I didn't pay attention, I was fascinated by the Pitot Tube. Agreed, the triangular cockpit windscreen is interesting and I suppose appropriate if the aircraft is named Delta Dagger! Delta for the wing shape, but the photo doesn't show that.

As for the the Starfighter, with those tiny wings it must have relied a lot of the thrust of that jet engine. I remember hearing them taking off from the Lahr, Germany Canadian Air Base in the 70s. Very, very loud! Afterburners?

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Fascinating series, Kelly. TFS
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Fascinating set of images, Kelly! Very clever use of your UWA!

The image of the Starfighter is strange - I also remember the tiny wings. It became infamous in Germany for the (high) number of crashes, acquiring the nickname "widowmaker".

My personal favorite is the B52 - I built one from a Revell kit as a kid. I still have the box, keeping B/W film negatives in it!
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