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Post Options Post Options   Quote tefoonez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2014 at 10:50
Originally posted by brian33 brian33 wrote:


Masks in Photoshop Elements are not terribly intuitive. I still use version 6 and one reason I do is because I can't be bothered to follow through on all the changes that may require me to relearn things it took me forever to learn on 6. Only thing I can say is you have to visualize the masks like two pieces of paper, each with the same image, one on top of the other. In this case, you take the top piece of paper and cut out the rabbits as well as the band of grass that's in focus (using the eraser tool), revealing the rabbits underneath. To the top image you apply the gaussian blur and to the bottom image you apply the sharpening tool.

As far as creating the mask and knowing which one is the top image and which is the bottom, that's the part that's not intuitive, unfortunately and I would be hard-pressed to explain it since now that I've learned I just click where I know I need to click and that's it.


No Brian, it will make me better by spending the time trying to make it work - I am sure there is some aid to be found on youtube or the likes.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tefoonez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2014 at 10:52
Originally posted by jkp1 jkp1 wrote:

Hmmm....

What i am trying to say is that what to do with a shot during PP is pretty much up to the personal preference and taste. But itīs a good idea to share "how to", just like in this thread. Keep it going :-)


Very true, you should always reflect your own preferences but this was about some tutelage/suggestions about how you might go about doing such things. I also quite like your image - it certainly takes any issues over sharpness out
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Nice picture - I went back to your Raw file.

I cropped out the white dandelion in the front. Shifted the focus to put the wide bunny on the third measurement.

I darkened the foreground to bring out the detail with a gradient in Lightroom and applied the lens calibration for the 70-400.

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Date Taken: 2014-05-06 15:25:40

Here I tried to reduce the visual impact of the background with another gradient filter:

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Date Taken: 2014-05-06 15:34:57


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Post Options Post Options   Quote DrSpinorial Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2014 at 20:46
I had a go at editing it with Darktable (a free/opensource non-destructive editor).
My main steps were:

1. White balance set to 'cloudy' preset, mired +2 to add some warmth.
2. Boosted contract by adjusting levels + a little gamma to lighten
3. Subtle tone-curve adjustment
4. Applied 2 instances (like layers) of Profiled Denoise - one for colour noise and the other for lightness noise. I find this works better than a single combined instance for high iso. Sometimes I omit luma noise correction, or apply with some opacity, and leave a little 'grain' if that benefits fine detail.
5. Cropped to throw emphasis onto left-hand bunny by placing his(?) head on a ROT intersection. Effect is reinforced because he's being looked at by the other rabbit.
6. graduated density filter (placed high up).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sigurd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2014 at 22:39
I like it DrSpinorial
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Silver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2014 at 17:08
Another attempt :)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tefoonez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2014 at 17:12
Excellent work guys and thanks, glad the exercise is proving fun and it's certainly educational for me and perhaps some others   

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Idyllic Pics Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2014 at 18:06
I could not open the raw file in LR 3 - must be time to update to LR 5? I edited the jpg you posted in OP.

Not sure if this is better, but I like to play around with things, and I had an idea that noone else had tried yet ;)

My thinking was: when visual cues are present in an image, L->R reading cultures (IMO) prefer to have movement move from L->R, so I switched the rabbits, as the standing one grabs your attention and the sitting one points to the standing one.

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flat tone curve preset (LR3)
temp +20
tint +5

crop a bit of grass to the left of the LHS bunny after a horizontal flip. crop some fence post and clone out the dandelion in front of the sitting bunny (that thing was annoying me!!).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sigurd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2014 at 22:22
The Horizontal flip is interesting. I think it gives the thin bunny more emphasis.

Not something I tend to do. I feel like it breaks an unspoken rule. Interesting though.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tigertimb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2014 at 22:31
Another alternative crop from me:

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Idyllic Pics Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2014 at 01:49
Originally posted by Sigurd Sigurd wrote:


Not something I tend to do. I feel like it breaks an unspoken rule. Interesting though.


It feels less honest to me than all the other PP I do, agreed. But sometimes, it really helps the composition.


Originally posted by Sigurd Sigurd wrote:

The Horizontal flip is interesting. I think it gives the thin bunny more emphasis.


It's usually more captivating when someone / thing is looking at you, vs away from you. I also think there are implicit leading lines in the image, as so:


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Originally posted by tigertimb tigertimb wrote:

Another alternative crop from me:


Good idea! Rabbit (spot) removal tool to the rescue!!

Grass is such a great cloning material.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slingers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2014 at 13:26
Here is my go at your image



Lightroom settings
Exposure +0.36
Contrast +29
Highlights -10
Shadows +21
Whites +57
Blacks -38
Clarity -31
Vibrance +19
Saturation -19
Luminance - Red +20
Luminance - Orange +20
Highlights - Hue 60 Saturation 32
Shadows - Hue 193 Saturation 23
Sharpening 60 0.7 70 20
Noise Reduction 19
Vignetting Highlight Priority Amount -24
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Brandy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2014 at 08:41


My 2c worth. No cloning, first tried DxO but no appropriate module so just noise reduction but then blurred and increased contrast in Photo suite to emphasise the hares so that wasted the time spent in Dxo. All up 3mins.

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