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Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

lightweight (545g), but not too sharp at the long end. Both other lenses are bit heavier: 50-300mm 665g, 28-300mm 610g. But that's still lightweight IMO.
The 28-200 is 575g, if I was in the market for a super zoom that would be on my shortlist
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

lightweight (545g), but not too sharp at the long end. Both other lenses are bit heavier: 50-300mm 665g, 28-300mm 610g. But that's still lightweight IMO.
The 28-200 is 575g, if I was in the market for a super zoom that would be on my shortlist


As it should be. We already have that one! great travel/everyday lens!
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Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

The Tamron 28-300mm might be worth a look. I had the last DSLR version on the A99/A99II and it became my "always on camera"-lens. After 4.5 years the AF died - and Tamron repaired it due to their 5-year guarantee.
I had the Tamron 70-300mm in the last (for mirrorless cameras) version, but sold it: lightweight (545g), but not too sharp at the long end. Both other lenses are bit heavier: 50-300mm 665g, 28-300mm 610g. But that's still lightweight IMO.


For those that migth be interested in the Tamron new 28-300mm lens, Dustin Abbott has done a good review of that lens here: Dustin Abbott review of the Tamron 28-300mm lens
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Thanks Kelly,

Useful range and feature set, at the cost of a slow maximum aperture and diminished image quality compared to the 28-200mm.

I think I'd be more tempted with the 50-300mm for travel.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AudioDoc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 September 2024 at 15:15
I agree, but it might be a good option for some users. I posted the review since Harald did suggest it as a lightweight option. Normally for landscapes/cityscapes f8/f11 (or even f13/f16 for max DOF) is probably the aperture typically used and the corners often are hardly noticeable, I'm fine with my 28-200 as my go-to travel lenses, but yes the 50-300 is an attractive option, perhaps paired with the 17-50 which currently has a $150 price reduction and is selling for $550 at B&H photo. More temptations!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 September 2024 at 20:41
Picked up a Voigtlander Ultron 28/2.0 Aspherical (2nd version) in M-mount for my Leica M (240) but also for Sony as there still is no better 28mm then the 28/2....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 September 2024 at 20:58
Originally posted by AudioDoc AudioDoc wrote:

I agree, but it might be a good option for some users...


It's a good option for someone wanting a single-lens solution, say for travel. But like you, my ideal travel kit has been 1 short zoom and 1 long zoom (with some variations due to circumstances). So far I'm still resisting temptation too. It helps that since Covid19 I'm doing a lot less traveling...
α1, α7cii- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Picked up a Voigtlander Ultron 28/2.0 Aspherical (2nd version) in M-mount for my Leica M (240) but also for Sony as there still is no better 28mm then the 28/2....


Will be interested in your feedback on the Voigtländer on the Sony. Like you I also feel the 28mm options we have in the E-mount are uninspiring. It was one of my favourite focal lengths in the A-mount.
A 28mm Loxia or Batis would have slotted into my lineup very easily

Still, it is for me, more of a 'nice to have' than a necessity. I seem to be doing okay without one. Still more than a year since my last lens purchase
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 4paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2024 at 23:06
^^^ +1000 addy and Wētāpunga ... my go-to AF 28 is the AF MinO 28/2 on the EA5 adapter ... for MF, i have nothing better than MD Rokkor-X 28/2.8 (49mm) ...

i find it insane that in the year 2024 i haven't found a 28 ... i would TOTALLY get a LeicaQ if i had an extra kidney to sell, but i think i only have 2 LOL ...

somehow Sony and Zeiss haven't made a fixed-lens competition for the Q???? SERIOUSLY ??????   Fuji can't make enough X100 and Sony (and Zeiss ZX) are ghosting it????? ay caramba!

I have rejected:
Minolta M 28/2.8 - mine has white spot disease, mostly fixable in post, but still not good enough
Contax G Biogon 28/2.8 - corners are nasty, and i have extremely low standards for corners! LOL ... if i say it's bad, it's baaaaaaaaaaaaad....
Laowa 28/1.2 - man i want to like it, but ... no
i still haven't bought the Sony E 28/2, the images are not all that ... and MF/aperture/focusHold doesn't exist ... i'm about to break down and get the G 24/2.8 just for the buttons ...

i CANNOT BELIEVE Zeiss hasn't made a fixed-lens compact with the (Contax G) Biogon (or Hologon!) lenses, with a curved sensor for superb corners ... but my opinions seem to be minority opinions (shrug emoji)
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Ok, time to tell me if I'm just succumbing to GAS or whether this is a good idea.
I'm not keen on taking my α1 with me to my trips to China because if it gets damaged, lost or stolen that will be a lot of regret. Plus, if I get chances for photos it's really just as a tourist, which means I'm not using the full capabilities of the camera.

So, what about an α7c. If you can find one they're on the rather cheap side, so if anything happens to it I'm not going to be stricken with regret. Its capabilities seem to be more than adequate for tourist-type shots and its compact size is another bonus.

Downsides- well, the older, clunkier menu system. The poor EVF. More limited programmable buttons. The older technology.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Harm vb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2024 at 08:26
Nice one, "as a tourist": just buy an A6xx with some basic lenses, that will do as well.
What can't you shoot with the A6xx that an A7C could, as a tourist? That is just point and shoot.

I see it as a form of GAS, camouflaged by some non-valid arguments.

My thoughts...

Still haven't bought an A7Riv .
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Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Ok, time to tell me if I'm just succumbing to GAS or whether this is a good idea.
I'm not keen on taking my α1 with me to my trips to China because if it gets damaged, lost or stolen that will be a lot of regret. Plus, if I get chances for photos it's really just as a tourist, which means I'm not using the full capabilities of the camera.

So, what about an α7c. If you can find one they're on the rather cheap side, so if anything happens to it I'm not going to be stricken with regret. Its capabilities seem to be more than adequate for tourist-type shots and its compact size is another bonus.

Downsides- well, the older, clunkier menu system. The poor EVF. More limited programmable buttons. The older technology.

Well reasoned to stay with the same full frame mount. I would think you would opt for the a7iv. Latest technology, same battery as your A1, could be used as a back-up to your A1, just a few $ more than a a7cii and less than half the cost of the A1.

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I think it's not a bad idea at all for that purpose. I have never had a problem with the old menu system. You probably are going to have everything customized anyway and will seldom have to dig into the menus.

The APC cameras would also work other than shooting wide, which is probably what you may want to do in cities in China, so I wouldn't go with that option which may require new lenses to shoot wide.

That 24 Mp sensor is great and entirely adequate for most photos unless you wanted to print really huge! Of course you can shoot panos with it in vertical mode for larger prints.

Yes, I understand the EVF is not great. The other negative for me would be the flip out screen, which is the reason I skipped the A7IV. For me that is a feature designed for vloggers and video and is crappy for street photography. I absolutely love the true fully articulating screen on my A7rV! But normally I prefer a tilting screen.

BTW the original A7 is very small and light when compared with the newer cameras and can be had really cheap used and might also be a good option.
Negatives would be the smaller battery, the louder shutter noise and no IBIS. I still use mine. Basically the same sensor as the A7c. That would be your cheapest option I think, though you would need at least one extra battery. I carry two with mine.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2024 at 17:45
Originally posted by AudioDoc AudioDoc wrote:

The other negative for me would be the flip out screen, which is the reason I skipped the A7IV. For me that is a feature designed for vloggers and video and is crappy for street photography.

I've been using side hinged tilt twist screens since the Olympus E-3. I always found the design preferable to the basic tilt for the simple reason of turning the screen in to protect it. The tilt screens scratch up and obscure viewing. For street the side hinged allows the camera to stay in portrait orientation and discreet.
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