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Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

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28mm is very versatile. I probably will pre-order when Sony releases a 28/1.4G that is priced and sized like my 20/1.8G. Would be a first for me....


The old Minolta 28mm f2 was one of my favourite lenses and focal lengths. I'd be tempted by a good Sony 28mm. Their current 28mm isn't up to the standard of my Loxia lenses, and the Sigma 28mm too large.
If money is tight, the Sony is fine, but no where close to your Loxia's. But there is not really anything else. The Viltrox 28/1.8 also not really better then the Sony. It is surprising there are so few of them - the Ricoh GR and Leica Q have 28mm and are extremely popular.
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Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

You're an inspiration to many of us Kelly

I agree on the point about displaying images on Dyxum (or the internet generally). Older lenses are still very capable. But yeah, its also fun to 'geek out' in the new gear.

That said, there are some reasons why I like newer gear. I shoot events and sell prints. Having a more modern camera means the photos are better in low light, and it snaps to focus much faster. I'd much rather have the focusing speed and eye-detection algorithm of an a9 or a1 than say an a77 or a900. And the difference in ISO performance is extraordinary. Getting the shots the client wants is worth some camera investment.

There's also an advantage with producing larger prints as you note. For example, my 21mm Loxia beats the Minolta 20mm f2.8. It does better with distortion, edge-sharpness and detail.

And there's also a weight/size factor. While it doesn't always follow, many modern E-mount lenses are smaller and lighter than the older A-mount options.

Plus the combination of dual linear motors and the focusing speed, high ISO performance of modern E-mount cameras, means some shots in gloomy conditions are possible when they weren't with my older gear.



You won't get any argument from me on those points. You may remember I have the complete Zeiss Batis set, though none of the Loxias ( yet). Also I don't have a 61 Mp sensor yet, but do have the 42 Mp, A7IIIa and do like to print as large as my Epson R1900 will alow (13 x19) I wonder how many here print?

I like the rendering of my Zeiss lenses -- also the Sony Zeiss lenses. A shame Zeiss has given up on designing new FE mount lenses!

I wonder how the Sony FE 20mm f1.8 G compares with your Loxia 21? Oh, oh, I shouldn't be discussing cameras and lenses I don't have -- could cause Gas!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 January 2024 at 14:21
Originally posted by AudioDoc AudioDoc wrote:

I wonder how the Sony FE 20mm f1.8 G compares with your Loxia 21? Oh, oh, I shouldn't be discussing cameras and lenses I don't have -- could cause Gas!
At least that Sony has much better autofocus and the one millimeter difference in focal length might be crucial...

PS. I haven't bought any new lenses for 383 days, although I do have bought few other pieces of camera equipment later...
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Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:


Congrats Fred, I told my self I had the Tamron 28-75 already with lots of satisfaction

Thanks Harm, I considered that one as well, but would miss the 4mm at the wide end probably

SEL1635Z and/or SEL1224G an idea???

It's all on the longlist 😂
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Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:


Congrats Fred, I told my self I had the Tamron 28-75 already with lots of satisfaction

Thanks Harm, I considered that one as well, but would miss the 4mm at the wide end probably
People differ, but for me 28mm is plenty wide for most situations. If I want to go wider, I usually want to go wider then 24mm. So, I picked up the Sigma 28-70/2.8.

28mm is very versatile. I probably will pre-order when Sony releases a 28/1.4G that is priced and sized like my 20/1.8G. Would be a first for me....

Looking in my LR library, 24mm is used quite often by my. I have a Tamron 28-200mm which I like a lot but often miss the bit wider option
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

... If money is tight, the Sony is fine, but no where close to your Loxia's. But there is not really anything else. The Viltrox 28/1.8 also not really better than the Sony. It is surprising there are so few of them - the Ricoh GR and Leica Q have 28mm and are extremely popular.


Yeah, I find it surprising too. 28mm is a pretty standard focal-length and fills the gap between 20/21mm and 35mm pretty well.
With the wealth of lenses we have available in the E-mount, the absence of a good 28mm prime seems odd.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AudioDoc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 January 2024 at 23:32
That post confused me a little because it referred to your Loxia, which is a 21mm, but then is talking about 28mm lenses. There are choices for 20mm but yes, not a much choice for 28mm primes. I'm fine with 28mm on my Tamron 28-200, but I don't know if I'd buy a 28mm prime. Its a personal choice. I do have the Minolta 28mm f2.0, not to be confused with the cheaper f2.8 lens. Its a fine lens and not too big, at least without adapter.

I'd not been much of a fan for zoom lenses in the past, until I noticed photos and reviews posted with the Tamron 28-200mm and decided I'd try it as a travel lens. Boy what an eye opener. Pay attention to the many examples posted by Dyxum photographers here. I've concluded its more than just a good travel lense. Definitely a great all-arounder at a resonable price, when you don't need a faster zoom.
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The aspiration for a 28mm lens was one that was on par with my Loxia lenses Kelly. If Zeiss had produced a Loxia 28mm instead of the 25mm, I think it would have been in my kit a while ago .

I do agree about the quality of Zooms now. I think I'd be almost as happy with a kit consisting of the 16-35/2.8 GM, 24-70/2.8 GM, the 100-400mm GM and a macro or two instead of my current kit.

Edited by Wētāpunga - 18 January 2024 at 00:53
α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 January 2024 at 01:15
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:


28mm is very versatile. I probably will pre-order when Sony releases a 28/1.4G that is priced and sized like my 20/1.8G. Would be a first for me....


The old Minolta 28mm f2 was one of my favourite lenses and focal lengths. I'd be tempted by a good Sony 28mm. Their current 28mm isn't up to the standard of my Loxia lenses, and the Sigma 28mm too large.

The Sony FE 2/28 is better than the Minolta 28mm F2. Sharper, much nicer background out-of-focus.
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Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:

He didn't, but I will do next Monday: Sigma 150-600 Sports of 2100grams


Interesting lens review- you seemed a little disappointed in the lens in it- a bit too unwieldy and not as sharp as you'd hoped?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Harm vb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 January 2024 at 07:39
Indeed, sharpness compared to the sold Sigma 100-400 is less.
Shooting Jupiter with its 4 visible Moons gave me just a white spot, with no visible Moons.

Maybe I need some practice .
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Fred_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 January 2024 at 09:20
No regrets I hope?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Harm vb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 January 2024 at 09:24
No... The extra mills are extending the possibilities and make me more lazy🫣.
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And today I hit the 6-month mark for no new lens purchases.
α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF
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